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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6552010" data-attributes="member: 2011">I think that the &quot;pin&quot; action in 5E (i.e. grapple followed by shove/prone) is how disarm should probably work (even though it is not how some cinematic disarms might seem to work).1) Grapple opponent.2) Disarm foe as per DMG optional rules (can only be done if foe is grappled by attacker).3) Scoop up weapon as part of disarm as per normal &quot;use an object&quot; doing an attack rules (assuming that the attacker wants to take the weapon, attacker needs second hand free to do this since first hand is still grappling, if the attacker has a weapon in his second hand, then he can disarm by knocking the weapon out as per DMG, but he cannot pick it up yet).If it takes two actions and two sets of rolls instead of one (and the attacker can only steal the weapon if he has both hands free), it's not as easy and it costs more resources. It's also not easy for the foe to just take it back either. So it becomes something that the PCs and NPCs use either against a much tougher foe (because damage is going to be slow), or they use as more or less a last ditch option.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6552010, member: 2011"] I think that the "pin" action in 5E (i.e. grapple followed by shove/prone) is how disarm should probably work (even though it is not how some cinematic disarms might seem to work). 1) Grapple opponent. 2) Disarm foe as per DMG optional rules (can only be done if foe is grappled by attacker). 3) Scoop up weapon as part of disarm as per normal "use an object" doing an attack rules (assuming that the attacker wants to take the weapon, attacker needs second hand free to do this since first hand is still grappling, if the attacker has a weapon in his second hand, then he can disarm by knocking the weapon out as per DMG, but he cannot pick it up yet). If it takes two actions and two sets of rolls instead of one (and the attacker can only steal the weapon if he has both hands free), it's not as easy and it costs more resources. It's also not easy for the foe to just take it back either. So it becomes something that the PCs and NPCs use either against a much tougher foe (because damage is going to be slow), or they use as more or less a last ditch option. [/QUOTE]

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