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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 1656152" data-attributes="member: 6875">No.  I made no assumptions about haste / weapon-of-speed.  So only +42/+37/+32/+27.  No, again, no Haste or Weapon of Speed factored in for either fighter, so only +41/+36/+31/+26.  Also, I didn't even assume magic weapons aiding in the attack for either fighter - in which case, plus for plus, the agility fighter benefits more, because the enhancmenet bonus would represent a much lrger proportional boost to his damage with each blow.  Less the first attack.  Nope.  4 attacks, roughly one-in-twenty chance to hti with each attack, so roughly 23.6 per round average damage.  If considering solely pure damage-output-per-round, yes you're right.  But consider the other elements I mentioned: pre-melee ranged combat and initiative.  Contemplate the effects, after the strength fighter nukes his BAB to full power attack, of a simple disarm (or five) by the agility fighter, who can choose to forgo his Improved Combat Expertise for the round; the Strength fighter is more reliant on having a 2H weapon around, than the agility fighter is.  ^_^  Also consider, that once critical hits come into play, the agility fighter is rolling dice more often, and will thus get Threats more often - and convert them to criticals more easily based on his chances to hit, too.  Threat- or Critical-based weapon modifiers will similarly be of more value to him (paired Scimitars of +1/Vorpal, for example - or just a pair of Icy/Fiery/Whatever Burst weapons ... etc).  Or simple Shortswords of Wounding/Marrowcrushing.  Sure, only 6 average damage per round - and two to four points of constitution!  Twice that with Greater Wounding, heh (Marrowcrushing would be preferable, since immunity to crits is irrelevant to it - but it's Evil-with-a-capital-E, and, a +3 weapon ability).  For some routes to victory, quantity of attacks is superior to quality of attacks. ^_^  For myself, rather than shortswords ... I'd actually go with Light Maces, make sure to get Improved Critical (Light Mace), and take the "Lightning Mace" combat-style feat from Complete Warrior.  More Attacks = Good.  However, I wasn't going to try and ultra-twink-out either side of my comparison.  The defense-based character needs to apply his/her advantage in a way that benefits the party.  Knowing s/he is harder to hit, s/he can purposely take AoOs to get enemy spellcasters into their Threatened area; interpose theirself between melee-brute enemies and the party spellcaster(s); hold a doorway to cover the party's retreat; and so on.</blockquote>

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