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<blockquote data-quote="DerHauptman" data-source="post: 2999114" data-attributes="member: 39988"><p><span style="color: Magenta">I casted spells out here today...fore vents</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">I cast tect magic - an I cast it some more den one too...</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Da first time I saw dat one mens in da stand <points to the caster> </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">He use some magics but dis Jik'tu not knows wut. </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Now I knows he U man in dis too so gots no problems wif him. </span></p><p></p><p>Standing like one contemplating </p><p></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">If you want to know if I wish dis man </span><points to the noble> <span style="color: Magenta">loose</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">course I do, we habs dis bet ya no. I bes not idiot...</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">I wish him die fur sult me too.... dat not illegal course you knows dat.</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">I make whispers to god fur dat, dat not illegal too...</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Tell me you not whisper to yous god sometimes fur help when you want sumptin</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Sides - </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Jik'tu not testent here in dis I only makes dat bet an less I be </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">ignert of fair ways to do tings - I not be kicked out of sumptin I not ev'n in. </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">If Cepheus an dat man says true words den they go in vent simple even fur me - </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">if one dem </span><shakes thumb at the lord> <span style="color: Magenta">not speak truef </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">den he out and lose his bets da same.</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Gin less I stake sumhows - </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Anyone here make dis side bets as dey want </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">dat have nutin do wif contest rules and dis vent. </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Less you write dat out sum wheres. Do you?</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">You habs no thorty to ends bets </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">an you can't not makes bets not true too. </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">You gots no thorty over bets Reynold - do you? </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Bets twix two people not da rules of vent. </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">It not fair to Cepheus out cuz I know him and not make answers you like. </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">he not volved in any stuffs...your man deres knows dis </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Dat guilt by knowin me in dat case you guilty too cuz you knows me </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">I maked bet wif dis purdy mans here it not volve you anyways... </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">You want me get off test rena I do dat fur you to make tings beters </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">but I says dat purdy man cheats you know dis now. </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">So ifin he stay I want make sure he not cheats more...</span></p><p></p><p>Looking more inspired - </p><p></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Wut you say spell mans - </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Do my Cepheus say true words? </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Did da purdy man says true words? </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Member we all must say true words in dis spell I guess so right?</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Who is da only two testants...Reynold? </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Dem twos right?</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Kin you boot testant for somting he not do? </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Dat fair to do dat? </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Jik'tu say dis too...</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">I answer you questions - me done! Dat all...</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Now dis one last one fur you - U wan me git off rena? </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Dat fine but Cepheus truefs says an dat man I think he lied. </span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">I wait off da rena Cepheus I wach and cheer from roads...good I pray fur you gin...</span></p><p></p><p>Jik'tu walks away toward the road....he yells back...</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">You want be fair Reynold or sometimes people not want you round any more...!</span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta"></span></p><p><span style="color: Magenta">Not kick out the truth tellers - only the liars - dat fair like Reynolds we all knows! </span> </p><p></p><p>[sblock=Velmont] Its your game here but I still don't know how your official knew what spell was cast by Jik'tu at all. Detect magic only gives you the school of he spell not the exact spell. Unless he saw Jik'tu cast it or he'd know he did it anyways. I specifically said he cast the spell away from the field and behind something (which would have looked much like a prayer, there are no visible effects at all) then came back in with the spell in effect. The caster does not have to concentrate on the spell to make it work. </p><p></p><p>Anyways, Jik'tu and Cepheus are not lying at all. Jik'tu said he cast a spell and before the contest began, he said he cast detect magic which is true, he says he hates and wishes Lord Googly Pants ill and even that he die. He said he whispered to his god (also true) to help Cepheus win and the noble to loose. </p><p></p><p>No one in Ossirus knows Jik'tu is a cleric at all he wears warriors gear and calls himself a warrior everywhere he goes. He even thinks he is a warrior so it would register as true since he regards himself that way. He is a warrior who sometimes gets gifts (spells) from his god. Cepheus knows he can heal though and that paladin from a few weeks ago. </p><p></p><p>From what I see the noble is the one lying. </p><p></p><p>Besides kicking someone out of a contest they paid to get into for something someone else did - that they had no knowledge of is patently unfair and against any lawful or good ideals at all. </p><p></p><p>Reynold would be a jerk to kick someone out because of the actions another took regardless of the reason even worse would be kicking someone out of a contest because someone the person knew took some action without their knowledge. That is just all kinds of wrong there. Especially when the people who made the actions are not even contestants at all. </p><p></p><p>Jik'tu just walks off because he is not trusted (even though he didn't lie) because of his past, heritage and circumstance. </p><p></p><p>Cepheus who is absolutely innocent in this stays and hopefully wins too. </p><p></p><p>I don't know if the lord actually is guilty or not but he (if the judges catch it) has implicated himself to the same extent Jik'tu has because of his perceived deceptive words and actions. (although Jik'tu didn't lie under oath as it were) </p><p></p><p>The lord looses his bets (period) because he doesn't beat Cepheus. </p><p></p><p>Velmont - regardless of what you decide I'll go with it but I'd sure like to know what your thought process was. \</p><p></p><p>I respect your authority and right to do what you think is best. </p><p></p><p>Also if you are just having second thoughts about letting us win that much cash or the work involved in us loosing and having to make an adventure for us while we work for the LORD let me know. If thats the case I'd understand that and go with it if thats your rationale. I could respect that perhaps more than anything else.</p><p></p><p>However, I think you'd be hard pressed with the facts presented to rule against letting Cepheus advance and shoot. He did nothing wrong except talk to Jik'tu no one there knows the scope and terms of their relationship they could just be acquaintances or just guys who hang out sometimes or only one time who knows that but them. They are not partners in crime nor are they known collaborators or criminals know to all. Actually they have never broken the law. Just been loud and unruly. </p><p></p><p>They didn't coordinate or arrange their actions here in any way. It just worked out to their advantage. </p><p></p><p>[/sblock]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DerHauptman, post: 2999114, member: 39988"] [COLOR=Magenta]I casted spells out here today...fore vents I cast tect magic - an I cast it some more den one too... Da first time I saw dat one mens in da stand <points to the caster> He use some magics but dis Jik'tu not knows wut. Now I knows he U man in dis too so gots no problems wif him. [/COLOR] Standing like one contemplating [COLOR=Magenta]If you want to know if I wish dis man [/COLOR]<points to the noble> [COLOR=Magenta]loose course I do, we habs dis bet ya no. I bes not idiot... I wish him die fur sult me too.... dat not illegal course you knows dat. I make whispers to god fur dat, dat not illegal too... Tell me you not whisper to yous god sometimes fur help when you want sumptin Sides - Jik'tu not testent here in dis I only makes dat bet an less I be ignert of fair ways to do tings - I not be kicked out of sumptin I not ev'n in. If Cepheus an dat man says true words den they go in vent simple even fur me - if one dem [/COLOR]<shakes thumb at the lord> [COLOR=Magenta]not speak truef den he out and lose his bets da same. Gin less I stake sumhows - Anyone here make dis side bets as dey want dat have nutin do wif contest rules and dis vent. Less you write dat out sum wheres. Do you? You habs no thorty to ends bets an you can't not makes bets not true too. You gots no thorty over bets Reynold - do you? Bets twix two people not da rules of vent. It not fair to Cepheus out cuz I know him and not make answers you like. he not volved in any stuffs...your man deres knows dis Dat guilt by knowin me in dat case you guilty too cuz you knows me I maked bet wif dis purdy mans here it not volve you anyways... You want me get off test rena I do dat fur you to make tings beters but I says dat purdy man cheats you know dis now. So ifin he stay I want make sure he not cheats more...[/COLOR] Looking more inspired - [COLOR=Magenta]Wut you say spell mans - Do my Cepheus say true words? Did da purdy man says true words? Member we all must say true words in dis spell I guess so right? Who is da only two testants...Reynold? Dem twos right? Kin you boot testant for somting he not do? Dat fair to do dat? Jik'tu say dis too... I answer you questions - me done! Dat all... Now dis one last one fur you - U wan me git off rena? Dat fine but Cepheus truefs says an dat man I think he lied. I wait off da rena Cepheus I wach and cheer from roads...good I pray fur you gin...[/COLOR] Jik'tu walks away toward the road....he yells back... [COLOR=Magenta]You want be fair Reynold or sometimes people not want you round any more...! Not kick out the truth tellers - only the liars - dat fair like Reynolds we all knows! [/COLOR] [sblock=Velmont] Its your game here but I still don't know how your official knew what spell was cast by Jik'tu at all. Detect magic only gives you the school of he spell not the exact spell. Unless he saw Jik'tu cast it or he'd know he did it anyways. I specifically said he cast the spell away from the field and behind something (which would have looked much like a prayer, there are no visible effects at all) then came back in with the spell in effect. The caster does not have to concentrate on the spell to make it work. Anyways, Jik'tu and Cepheus are not lying at all. Jik'tu said he cast a spell and before the contest began, he said he cast detect magic which is true, he says he hates and wishes Lord Googly Pants ill and even that he die. He said he whispered to his god (also true) to help Cepheus win and the noble to loose. No one in Ossirus knows Jik'tu is a cleric at all he wears warriors gear and calls himself a warrior everywhere he goes. He even thinks he is a warrior so it would register as true since he regards himself that way. He is a warrior who sometimes gets gifts (spells) from his god. Cepheus knows he can heal though and that paladin from a few weeks ago. From what I see the noble is the one lying. Besides kicking someone out of a contest they paid to get into for something someone else did - that they had no knowledge of is patently unfair and against any lawful or good ideals at all. Reynold would be a jerk to kick someone out because of the actions another took regardless of the reason even worse would be kicking someone out of a contest because someone the person knew took some action without their knowledge. That is just all kinds of wrong there. Especially when the people who made the actions are not even contestants at all. Jik'tu just walks off because he is not trusted (even though he didn't lie) because of his past, heritage and circumstance. Cepheus who is absolutely innocent in this stays and hopefully wins too. I don't know if the lord actually is guilty or not but he (if the judges catch it) has implicated himself to the same extent Jik'tu has because of his perceived deceptive words and actions. (although Jik'tu didn't lie under oath as it were) The lord looses his bets (period) because he doesn't beat Cepheus. Velmont - regardless of what you decide I'll go with it but I'd sure like to know what your thought process was. \ I respect your authority and right to do what you think is best. Also if you are just having second thoughts about letting us win that much cash or the work involved in us loosing and having to make an adventure for us while we work for the LORD let me know. If thats the case I'd understand that and go with it if thats your rationale. I could respect that perhaps more than anything else. However, I think you'd be hard pressed with the facts presented to rule against letting Cepheus advance and shoot. He did nothing wrong except talk to Jik'tu no one there knows the scope and terms of their relationship they could just be acquaintances or just guys who hang out sometimes or only one time who knows that but them. They are not partners in crime nor are they known collaborators or criminals know to all. Actually they have never broken the law. Just been loud and unruly. They didn't coordinate or arrange their actions here in any way. It just worked out to their advantage. [/sblock] [/QUOTE]
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