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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8954936" data-attributes="member: 177">I've seen "all storytelling is lies" as a sort of reductive argument.  The logic is that if you say, "Sam walked into a bar," and this person named Sam didn't literally do so (because, for example, Sam and the bar are both fictitious, and so do not exist to walk into each other), then you are willfully relating an untrue statement - in other words, lying.It is a pretty bogus argument, IMHO, that shifts the burden/issue of lies away from trust.  Like, two old guys sitting on a dock fishing, telling "exaggerated" tales of prior fishing exploits - technically lying about the size of the one that got away, but there no violation of trust, so they are both fine with it.  But when one of them gets home late, and his wife asks where he's been, and he says he was working late instead of skiving off fishing, she cares a lot, because he's broken trust.Which dovetails nicely with this discussion.  Whether fudging is bad is highly contingent on what violates trust at the table.</blockquote>