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<blockquote data-quote="Loonook" data-source="post: 5896339" data-attributes="member: 1861"><p>It is not about 'theoretical mathematics' ... It is hackneyed symbolic logic. We all know the meaning of 1d4. The format is pretty simple...</p><p></p><p>XdY</p><p>X - Number of Dice rolled.</p><p>d - Die 'constant'</p><p>Y - Sides of rolled die.</p><p></p><p>In and of itself XdY is an rule. For every appearance we known to roll X number of Y sided die. We also know, per inference, that no displayed value for X, as in the argument (d4, or -d4 for holding place clarification) makes the pre-d value known as X=1.</p><p></p><p>Thus, your discussion of 1d4d4 presents two separate arguments:</p><p></p><p>(1d4) and (-d4). -d4 = 1d4, so we are presented with the argument of 1d4 and 1d4. Two separate arrangements. </p><p></p><p>A couple accepted formats for a multiplying (at least in the very rare case I have seen shorthand on the subject, as it isn't unheard of but odd):</p><p></p><p>1d4*d4, 1d4*1d4, or d4*d4</p><p>1d4Xd4, 1d4X1d4, d4Xd4</p><p>All read the same. </p><p></p><p>Again, it's been awhile since I did any higher maths, but the XdY rule comes as a set. Treat each separate appearance as a unique number, similar to the use of any abstract symbol to 'solve for'.</p><p></p><p>Slainte,</p><p></p><p>-Loonook.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Loonook, post: 5896339, member: 1861"] It is not about 'theoretical mathematics' ... It is hackneyed symbolic logic. We all know the meaning of 1d4. The format is pretty simple... XdY X - Number of Dice rolled. d - Die 'constant' Y - Sides of rolled die. In and of itself XdY is an rule. For every appearance we known to roll X number of Y sided die. We also know, per inference, that no displayed value for X, as in the argument (d4, or -d4 for holding place clarification) makes the pre-d value known as X=1. Thus, your discussion of 1d4d4 presents two separate arguments: (1d4) and (-d4). -d4 = 1d4, so we are presented with the argument of 1d4 and 1d4. Two separate arrangements. A couple accepted formats for a multiplying (at least in the very rare case I have seen shorthand on the subject, as it isn't unheard of but odd): 1d4*d4, 1d4*1d4, or d4*d4 1d4Xd4, 1d4X1d4, d4Xd4 All read the same. Again, it's been awhile since I did any higher maths, but the XdY rule comes as a set. Treat each separate appearance as a unique number, similar to the use of any abstract symbol to 'solve for'. Slainte, -Loonook. [/QUOTE]
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