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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9706294" data-attributes="member: 93670">No you fail to meet the bar or moving your subjective table experience to objective discussion of the rules. The original claim was that the failure to wrench the malicious compliance ADEU based short rest warlock and monk over to the attrition based adventuring day model while failing to support the gm with rest changes when&nbsp; the players decide they are entitled to a 5mwd because &quot;MyClAsSnEeDsIt&quot;.Pointing to &quot;maximum of once every 24 hours, can be interrupted by combat, casting spells, and exertion and for most races needs to be a location where you can successfully sleep.I’m pretty sure it’s been close to that&quot; shows that you don't even undtrhe thing being discussed because that 1/24hr is for long rests not short rests.&nbsp; The ADEU short rest classes abuse their malicious compliance with the attrition based adventuring day model to subvert everything else with &quot;ok let's try again for another short rest&quot; the second they finish whatever interruption that stopped their short rest.&nbsp; Because the rules still fail at supporting the GM with weasel word&nbsp; clauses like good sleep and umm... Peaceful meditation/prayer or focused study while lowering the bar to what is effectively&quot;are you&nbsp; in an active warzone&quot; for short rest classes that only leaves adversarial fiat once the players feel they are entitled to endless on demand short rests</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9706294, member: 93670"] No you fail to meet the bar or moving your subjective table experience to objective discussion of the rules. The original claim was that the failure to wrench the malicious compliance ADEU based short rest warlock and monk over to the attrition based adventuring day model while failing to support the gm with rest changes when the players decide they are entitled to a 5mwd because "MyClAsSnEeDsIt". Pointing to "maximum of once every 24 hours, can be interrupted by combat, casting spells, and exertion and for most races needs to be a location where you can successfully sleep.[I]I’m pretty sure it’s been close to that"[/I] shows that you don't even undtrhe thing being discussed because that 1/24hr is for [B]long[/B] rests not short rests. The ADEU short rest classes abuse their malicious compliance with the attrition based adventuring day model to subvert everything else with "ok let's try again for another short rest" the second they finish whatever interruption that stopped their short rest. Because the rules [I]still[/I] fail at supporting the GM with weasel word clauses like [I]good[/I] sleep and umm... Peaceful meditation/prayer or focused study while lowering the bar to what is effectively"are you in an [I]active[/I] warzone" for short rest classes that only leaves adversarial fiat once the players feel they are entitled to endless on demand short rests [/QUOTE]

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