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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BlackMoria" data-source="post: 3828083" data-attributes="member: 424">The burden of proof is on you.Scrying - you have to either have something of the subject, have knowledge of the subject or a connection to the subject.  Sorry, no help there.Divination - gives advice to actions but really doesn't give any knowledge about a subject to act on.Locate Creature / Locate Object - object or subject must be knownContact Other Plane - no help here.  Your playing roulette with yes / no / maybe answers with a chance of a untruthful answer on each question.Discern Location - you must have seen the creature or handled an object.Teleport - you gotta find me first.  That's the rub.  And if I am a competent bad guy, you will not even get close (lots of ways to foil teleport).Sorry - the bottom line.... unless you know I exist as a threat and know something about either me or something I own that is usable in a spell, you're coming up empty.  No spell of Elminister is going to help him find an unknown threat.  Unless your party is going to travel to Shadowdale and tell him about the secret cult your party has unearthed.  And isn't that what this thread is all about?  If the party does that, then they can't decry Elminster swooping in and fixing the problem.</blockquote>