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<blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 4413828" data-attributes="member: 23977"><p>And that's kind of what I'm saying. I think D&D being the king, is in some way related to this.</p><p></p><p>I mean people talk about the gaming "market" not just being skewed, but wildly so, and I think this is because for the majority of the non-gamers D&D IS roleplaying. (Pen and Paper.) It has nothing to do with the rules, but rather D&D just being a part of our culture in general.</p><p></p><p>Without that same name recognition, I don't think any other game will be able to touch it. And can that same name recognition happen now? </p><p></p><p>I think that's why we're seein it happen in other formats (WoW) but not in its own medium of P&P games. </p><p></p><p>Which also makes me wonder, that while it might have been good for D&D's sales, and keeps being good for D&D's position... Was it overall bad for the gaming "market?"</p><p></p><p>Does that whole D&D = Gaming in the public eye inadvertantly foster the idea of if it ain't D&D it's crap? Would it have been better overall if say there had been a slower growth of gaming, with more games on relatively equal "footing?"</p><p></p><p>I'm not arguing it does, just wondering...</p><p></p><p>Another question I have is does this mean that D&D's position is artificial, and if it IS pulling in people because of the cultural recognition thing, is it destined to drop back down in line with the rest of the games out there? (As the people who would have been pulled in because of the "mythology" of D&D instead get pulled away by more current sources with the same "ooh it's baaaadness... like WoW?) Will it ultimately just have to compete for people who like P&P gaming? </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A little off topic, but I don't think the whole "nerd" thing was ever quite as drastic as movies and TV made it out to be... I DO think the nerds and geeks and stuff gained a little more because peopel involved with making TV and movies and such realized that probably the majority of the world out there associates more with being a nerd then with being the most popular kid...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scribble, post: 4413828, member: 23977"] And that's kind of what I'm saying. I think D&D being the king, is in some way related to this. I mean people talk about the gaming "market" not just being skewed, but wildly so, and I think this is because for the majority of the non-gamers D&D IS roleplaying. (Pen and Paper.) It has nothing to do with the rules, but rather D&D just being a part of our culture in general. Without that same name recognition, I don't think any other game will be able to touch it. And can that same name recognition happen now? I think that's why we're seein it happen in other formats (WoW) but not in its own medium of P&P games. Which also makes me wonder, that while it might have been good for D&D's sales, and keeps being good for D&D's position... Was it overall bad for the gaming "market?" Does that whole D&D = Gaming in the public eye inadvertantly foster the idea of if it ain't D&D it's crap? Would it have been better overall if say there had been a slower growth of gaming, with more games on relatively equal "footing?" I'm not arguing it does, just wondering... Another question I have is does this mean that D&D's position is artificial, and if it IS pulling in people because of the cultural recognition thing, is it destined to drop back down in line with the rest of the games out there? (As the people who would have been pulled in because of the "mythology" of D&D instead get pulled away by more current sources with the same "ooh it's baaaadness... like WoW?) Will it ultimately just have to compete for people who like P&P gaming? A little off topic, but I don't think the whole "nerd" thing was ever quite as drastic as movies and TV made it out to be... I DO think the nerds and geeks and stuff gained a little more because peopel involved with making TV and movies and such realized that probably the majority of the world out there associates more with being a nerd then with being the most popular kid... [/QUOTE]
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