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<blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8054528" data-attributes="member: 2209">Most of these were here in one form or another before.You always had distance moved in a round and 1e had tactical things like which side your shield was on versus your attacker's attack and attacking from behind as considerations.Retreating without a strategic withdrawal and 1e casting in melee come to mind.Oriental Adventures with Martial Arts and Proficiencies and then nonweapon proficiencies in Dungeoneer's Survival Guide and then 2e.&nbsp;The xp charts, stat requirements, and comparative strength at low level versus high levels were (poor IMO) attempts at this in old D&amp;D.&nbsp;Monster Level charts in 1e.Unearthed Arcana 0 level cantrips.&nbsp;Bards and Knights of Krynn.&nbsp;Nonweapon proficiencies that were a d20 roll under instead of up system. Thief Skills. Detecting secret doors. Bending Bars and lifting gates.Guidelines for how much magic NPCs at various levels should get were in the DMG.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Voadam, post: 8054528, member: 2209"] Most of these were here in one form or another before. You always had distance moved in a round and 1e had tactical things like which side your shield was on versus your attacker's attack and attacking from behind as considerations. Retreating without a strategic withdrawal and 1e casting in melee come to mind. Oriental Adventures with Martial Arts and Proficiencies and then nonweapon proficiencies in Dungeoneer's Survival Guide and then 2e. The xp charts, stat requirements, and comparative strength at low level versus high levels were (poor IMO) attempts at this in old D&D. Monster Level charts in 1e. Unearthed Arcana 0 level cantrips. Bards and Knights of Krynn. Nonweapon proficiencies that were a d20 roll under instead of up system. Thief Skills. Detecting secret doors. Bending Bars and lifting gates. Guidelines for how much magic NPCs at various levels should get were in the DMG. [/QUOTE]

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