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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8054975" data-attributes="member: 15700">I agree with this.&nbsp; In the beginning during NEXT playtests, the OSR was courted with &quot;here's a basic fighter class, and look at us redoing a 5e version of Against the Slave Lords classic module!&quot;But there hasn't been anything since.&nbsp; Every book and UA brought more complexity, so clearly the champion was just a token nod to OSR fans and they have no desire to have other classes that are streamlined.&nbsp; And as you mention, the adventure design is nothing like OSR; the short 1-2 session adventures that you could cobble together easily don't really exist outside of AL, as they are all larger campaign books.&nbsp; It's also extremely less deadly and gritty than OSR, even with optional rules.&nbsp;&nbsp; OSR also is heavily influenced by mature themes, and 5e is going the opposite (a better business decision IMO, anyway)I really like 5e, but it has not absorbed the OSR at all.It won't go over very well because Basic existed prior to 3e, and it was none of those things.&nbsp; It was easy to learn and streamlined.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 8054975, member: 15700"] I agree with this. In the beginning during NEXT playtests, the OSR was courted with "here's a basic fighter class, and look at us redoing a 5e version of Against the Slave Lords classic module!" But there hasn't been anything since. Every book and UA brought more complexity, so clearly the champion was just a token nod to OSR fans and they have no desire to have other classes that are streamlined. And as you mention, the adventure design is nothing like OSR; the short 1-2 session adventures that you could cobble together easily don't really exist outside of AL, as they are all larger campaign books. It's also extremely less deadly and gritty than OSR, even with optional rules. OSR also is heavily influenced by mature themes, and 5e is going the opposite (a better business decision IMO, anyway) I really like 5e, but it has not absorbed the OSR at all. It won't go over very well because Basic existed prior to 3e, and it was none of those things. It was easy to learn and streamlined. ;) [/QUOTE]

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