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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8432589" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>I'm confused. Which out of 3.X or AD&D <em>could</em> represent characters from history or fantasy fiction?</p><p></p><p>If Dragonsfoot is right then <a href="https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29947" target="_blank">this is what AD&D Conan's stats were according to Gygax</a>:</p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Str-19 (30)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Int-18 (50+)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Wis-15 (70)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Dex- 20 (25)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Con-18 (15-50)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Chr-18 (40)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Fighter-24 (40)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Thief- 12 (30)</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">HP-167 (40)</p><p></p><p>And here's <a href="https://oldschoolfrp.tumblr.com/post/137819052009/conans-stats-as-a-level-13-fighter-level-7" target="_blank">a younger version according to Zeb Cook</a>:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]145500[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Note the "luck points" (aren't those hit points), a special surprise rule, and how you can't get from one set of levels to the other - and some very odd human multiclassing.</p><p></p><p>In my experience due to the inflexible nature of the class system (and especially the two different multiclassing versions) and just how distinctive AD&D magic was the only characters you could reasonably translate were either broad brushstrokes or (like Aragorn and the the ranger) explicitly based upon the character. Even there as with the Grey Mouser casting spells from scrolls things often didn't work well; 4e's addition of ritual casting (continued in 5e) was excellent for this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8432589, member: 87792"] I'm confused. Which out of 3.X or AD&D [I]could[/I] represent characters from history or fantasy fiction? If Dragonsfoot is right then [URL='https://www.dragonsfoot.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=29947']this is what AD&D Conan's stats were according to Gygax[/URL]: [INDENT]Str-19 (30)[/INDENT] [INDENT]Int-18 (50+)[/INDENT] [INDENT]Wis-15 (70)[/INDENT] [INDENT]Dex- 20 (25)[/INDENT] [INDENT]Con-18 (15-50)[/INDENT] [INDENT]Chr-18 (40)[/INDENT] [INDENT]Fighter-24 (40)[/INDENT] [INDENT]Thief- 12 (30)[/INDENT] [INDENT]HP-167 (40)[/INDENT] And here's [URL='https://oldschoolfrp.tumblr.com/post/137819052009/conans-stats-as-a-level-13-fighter-level-7']a younger version according to Zeb Cook[/URL]: [ATTACH type="full"]145500[/ATTACH] Note the "luck points" (aren't those hit points), a special surprise rule, and how you can't get from one set of levels to the other - and some very odd human multiclassing. In my experience due to the inflexible nature of the class system (and especially the two different multiclassing versions) and just how distinctive AD&D magic was the only characters you could reasonably translate were either broad brushstrokes or (like Aragorn and the the ranger) explicitly based upon the character. Even there as with the Grey Mouser casting spells from scrolls things often didn't work well; 4e's addition of ritual casting (continued in 5e) was excellent for this. [/QUOTE]
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