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<blockquote data-quote="Mythmere1" data-source="post: 1984957" data-attributes="member: 26563">I think that's true, too.&nbsp; The DM cops out by refusing to work with the players, and vice versa.&nbsp; &quot;cops out&quot; is obviously being taken as strong language, as is my characterization of such a DM as a &quot;weak DM,&quot; and I'd also describe inflexible players as being &quot;weak players.&quot;I'm not trying to troll for arguments here - my point is that everyone loses if there's no DM-to-player communication about the nature of the setting.&nbsp; If you've got a lot of games available, then it's no big deal.&nbsp; But if you've got a long-standing group, I don't like to see strong-arm tactics on either side.&nbsp; As Hjorimir says, it's about everyone having fun, and it's a game.&nbsp; The DM should respect the players' wish-fulfillment, and the players should respect the fact that the DM goes to great lengths to create the setting for them to play in.&nbsp; If they don't, I call them weak players or DMs.&nbsp; I mean by that that they're missing out on a game that could be more enriching to all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mythmere1, post: 1984957, member: 26563"] I think that's true, too. The DM cops out by refusing to work with the players, and vice versa. "cops out" is obviously being taken as strong language, as is my characterization of such a DM as a "weak DM," and I'd also describe inflexible players as being "weak players." I'm not trying to troll for arguments here - my point is that everyone loses if there's no DM-to-player communication about the nature of the setting. If you've got a lot of games available, then it's no big deal. But if you've got a long-standing group, I don't like to see strong-arm tactics on either side. As Hjorimir says, it's about everyone having fun, and it's a game. The DM should respect the players' wish-fulfillment, and the players should respect the fact that the DM goes to great lengths to create the setting for them to play in. If they don't, I call them weak players or DMs. I mean by that that they're missing out on a game that could be more enriching to all. [/QUOTE]

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