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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PapersAndPaychecks" data-source="post: 3269765" data-attributes="member: 28854">Oh, there are hidden forums all over the web.  Dozens of them.  I haven't checked, but I bet ENWorld has at least one (for the mods and admins, if nothing else).It's true that I'm a member of several of these.  I'm a member of the contributing writers' forum on Dragonsfoot, the mods' and admins' forum on Knights & Knaves, various OSRIC-related forums and so forth.  It's a convenient way of communicating without interference from the charming Mr Halaster Blackcloak and his ilk, and if you're interested enough in the subject to read the thread linked above, you'll see plenty of reasons why we took that decision.Yes, OSRIC was in development over a substantial period of time, and yes, most of the work was done behind closed doors.  That was particularly true before we were certain of the legal implications of what we were doing!  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  We went a bit more public once we had a reasonably playable draft and the detailed thoughts of the lawyers to hand.Of course, there are always people who think the Sekrit Forums must be full of Bad People who're plotting to take over the world or, even worse, proselytise a particular game system on ENWorld (the horror!)Several points in response to that allegation.First, it's simply not true.It's true that I'd quite like it if more people played OSRIC (or at least, used it to publish their material).  It's also true that some of the other posters here would like that.  It's not true that there's a co-ordinated campaign to "convert" ENWorld to OSRIC, and in my view any attempt to do so would be futile and self-defeating.OSRIC's out there, and it's free.  Look!  Free stuff!  Help yourselves, if you're interested.  No pressure, no obligation, and if it's not for you, no problem.  Thanks for listening.And that's my whole message.  Sinister, huh?  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Second, it's certainly true that more posters have come over here to talk about 1e.  Why is that?Well, first, perceptions of ENWorld have shifted over the last six months.  It used to be that people believed that ENWorld was for the discussion of 3.x, and that's all; and that ENWorld was full of 1e-bashers and haters.That's changed recently, and I think that one of the main causes of this shift in perception was Henry's public support for OSRIC (for which, incidentally, Henry has earned my profound gratitude!)  The other mods have also chimed in on more than one occasion to say that ENWorld is for all editions, and even though the primary focus of the site is 3e, it's perfectly okay to talk about 1e here.With an invitation like that, is it so surprising that there's been a response?The idea that it's a co-ordinated board invasion from DF is, frankly, laughable.  You'd have to know the DF site mods to understand quite how silly it is... take it from me, they would not stand for any such funny business.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Of course, once people start talking 1e more here, you get more posters who're interested in 1e crawling out of the woodwork.  Why is this surprising?  Personally I haven't started any threads about 1e, I've simply replied to those that existed.  But others have started them, and why not?I've certainly participated in these threads.  I like to think I've remained civil and factual when putting across my view and correcting certain misapprehensions that I've observed.I'm getting the feeling that this isn't entirely comfortable for some of the posters here, though.  So let's talk about it.There was a recent spate of threads around 1e, mostly sparked off each other.What I think is that these 1e threads kept getting visited by drive-by threadcrappers who dropped in and said, "Wow, I'm so pleased all this rubbish got fixed in 3.x," and then disappeared.And, um, yeah, that gets a reaction.  Not too surprising when you think about it.  So some of the pro-1e posters (and I like to think I've avoided this temptation, but I understand the reasons others haven't) have thought, "Oh yeah?" and dropped into a passing 3.x thread to do the same thing.And then bingo, we have 1e -v- 3e threads and cries of "board invasion!"It's not a big deal imo; the sky isn't falling, and I rather imagine that the "compare and contrast" threads will disappear when people get bored of them.  But what do you think?</blockquote>

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