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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6575673" data-attributes="member: 996">I've seen the mechanic or it's equivalent (like re-rolls) in use quite a lot long before 5e and it never seemed a bad thing.  Indeed, Advantage is one of those happy mechanical rewards for 'good play' that players seem to appreciate /more/ than the raw numbers (which are still quite good, as long as the roll is fairly close to 50/50 to begin with) would seem to indicate. (Disadvantage, by the same token, is extra-dismal.)  Is it just the binary, non-stacking nature of the mechanic that you don't care for? I can see how bounded accuracy might feel like advancing slowly, or simply having less room for advancement (I think gaining 20 HD and 9 spell levels leaves plenty of other sorts of advancement to feel, though).  Is that what you mean by 'sideways?'  That you get more stuff rather than doing stuff better?  Because that doesn't sound so bad.Not any one sub-genre, certainly, and any speculation about what they were 'trying' to do is fruitless.  If you want to think of the game as defining it's own genre, then you neatly absolve it from any failure to model the broader fantasy genre, even though its presented as an FRPG.  That's convenient if you feel the need to 'defend' it.  But, it's not terribly informative or useful in understanding or evaluating it.</blockquote>