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<blockquote data-quote="Belen" data-source="post: 9534845" data-attributes="member: 1405">This.The mainstream has appropriated some aspects of our culture and then worked to destroy it or warp it into a more vanilla form.Let's look at the severe division in various fanbases. If I take Star Wars. The current narrative is that the fandom is toxic. Previously, most SW fans may have argued about aspects of the content but we all loved Star Wars and it was debating rather than toxic hate.The companies all want to make content for the mainstream fans they want rather than make the content that made things popular in the first place.They want to make content for the mainstream which often means that it is not the content we fell in love with.Honestly, I think half the toxicity in fandom is the mainstream folks taking our stuff, trashing it, and continuing to treat us the same way we have always been treated.Then again, maybe I am just getting old.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Belen, post: 9534845, member: 1405"] This. The mainstream has appropriated some aspects of our culture and then worked to destroy it or warp it into a more vanilla form. Let's look at the severe division in various fanbases. If I take Star Wars. The current narrative is that the fandom is toxic. Previously, most SW fans may have argued about aspects of the content but we all loved Star Wars and it was debating rather than toxic hate. The companies all want to make content for the mainstream fans they want rather than make the content that made things popular in the first place. They want to make content for the mainstream which often means that it is not the content we fell in love with. Honestly, I think half the toxicity in fandom is the mainstream folks taking our stuff, trashing it, and continuing to treat us the same way we have always been treated. Then again, maybe I am just getting old. [/QUOTE]

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