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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9535113" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>Yeah I'm aware, what I mean is, bullies haven't consistently been "jocks" or "the cool kids" for my entire lifetime, and I'm 46 (though in the UK as I note).</p><p></p><p>Sure, and that's my point. Bullying isn't something exclusive or even, in my experience, primarily done by sporty kids or cool kids, and people who are into nerdy stuff have not, in my lifetime, been even the primary, secondary, or really even tertiary targets for it. Poor kids have been the primary targets, consistently. Sick kids who weren't sympathetic (broken arm, really serious illness, etc. is sympathetic, mental health issues, stress, dietary issues tend to be less so). Smart kids in some environments. Rules followers in some environments. Rules breakers in other environments. But people who liked nerdy stuff? That was pretty far down the list in say, 1993, so this idea that this has newly changed seems wrong to me.</p><p></p><p>Well yeah and to be clear I've seen nerds particularly bully the less-nerdy people in the same hobbies/interest groups. And even bully sporty kids on occasion - it just takes the right environment - it's just more likely to be a bad idea because they're more likely to be able to punch you effectively!</p><p></p><p>I got incredibly lucky with late high school myself - I went to private school, and from 10-16 I was at a very prestige-focused boys school, which, honestly, I hated (and there was a lot of at least attempted bullying). In part because I had unidentified and untreated ADHD which was causing havoc (ironically this protected me from some bullying but that's a whole other story). But 16-18 I went to a school which was somehow <em>de facto</em> "laid-back kids who didn't fit in to other private schools", which honestly healed me a huge amount and meant I didn't have the really bad experiences some people seem to have in that age range.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9535113, member: 18"] Yeah I'm aware, what I mean is, bullies haven't consistently been "jocks" or "the cool kids" for my entire lifetime, and I'm 46 (though in the UK as I note). Sure, and that's my point. Bullying isn't something exclusive or even, in my experience, primarily done by sporty kids or cool kids, and people who are into nerdy stuff have not, in my lifetime, been even the primary, secondary, or really even tertiary targets for it. Poor kids have been the primary targets, consistently. Sick kids who weren't sympathetic (broken arm, really serious illness, etc. is sympathetic, mental health issues, stress, dietary issues tend to be less so). Smart kids in some environments. Rules followers in some environments. Rules breakers in other environments. But people who liked nerdy stuff? That was pretty far down the list in say, 1993, so this idea that this has newly changed seems wrong to me. Well yeah and to be clear I've seen nerds particularly bully the less-nerdy people in the same hobbies/interest groups. And even bully sporty kids on occasion - it just takes the right environment - it's just more likely to be a bad idea because they're more likely to be able to punch you effectively! I got incredibly lucky with late high school myself - I went to private school, and from 10-16 I was at a very prestige-focused boys school, which, honestly, I hated (and there was a lot of at least attempted bullying). In part because I had unidentified and untreated ADHD which was causing havoc (ironically this protected me from some bullying but that's a whole other story). But 16-18 I went to a school which was somehow [I]de facto[/I] "laid-back kids who didn't fit in to other private schools", which honestly healed me a huge amount and meant I didn't have the really bad experiences some people seem to have in that age range. [/QUOTE]
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