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<blockquote data-quote="Zhure" data-source="post: 8770" data-attributes="member: 308">This question has come up a lot, and I realize the language of the DMG is very clear that Prequisites are different from Caster Level.&quot;For potions, scrolls, and wands, the creator can set the caster level of the item at any number high enough to cast the stored spell and not higher than her own caster level. For other magic items, the caster level is determined by the item itself. In this case, the creator’s caster level must be as high as the item’s caster level (and prerequisites may effectively put a higher minimum on the creator’s level).&quot;This is clear. While Monte has said that was never the intent, it surely seems the rules came out that way.The next question is: Is it a good rule?Based on my quick persual, most of the miscellaneous items and weaponry, most of it makes sense. Vorpal takes an 18th level caster by strict reading of the rules. Luck Blade takes a 20th level caster. The only ones that don't make sense on my initial pass through the list are Prayer Beads, Sovereign Glue, Universal Solvent, which are all too high, and Horn of Blasting which seems way too low. Then again, I think Horn of Blasting is very very very broken and needs a fix. Greg[edit]I forgot to mention that making &quot;Caster Level&quot; a prerequisite opens a can of illogical worms:&quot;It is possible for more than one character to cooperate in the creation of an item, with each participant providing one or more of the prerequisites. In some cases, cooperation may even be necessary, such as if one character knows some of the spells necessary to create an item and another character knows the rest.&quot;Means a 7th level Wizard and a 20th level Commoner can group together to manufacture Vestments of Faith.Greg</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zhure, post: 8770, member: 308"] This question has come up a lot, and I realize the language of the DMG is very clear that Prequisites are different from Caster Level. "For potions, scrolls, and wands, the creator can set the caster level of the item at any number high enough to cast the stored spell and not higher than her own caster level. For other magic items, the caster level is determined by the item itself. In this case, the creator’s caster level must be as high as the item’s caster level (and prerequisites may effectively put a higher minimum on the creator’s level)." This is clear. While Monte has said that was never the intent, it surely seems the rules came out that way. The next question is: Is it a good rule? Based on my quick persual, most of the miscellaneous items and weaponry, most of it makes sense. Vorpal takes an 18th level caster by strict reading of the rules. Luck Blade takes a 20th level caster. The only ones that don't make sense on my initial pass through the list are Prayer Beads, Sovereign Glue, Universal Solvent, which are all too high, and Horn of Blasting which seems way too low. Then again, I think Horn of Blasting is very very very broken and needs a fix. Greg [edit] I forgot to mention that making "Caster Level" a prerequisite opens a can of illogical worms: "It is possible for more than one character to cooperate in the creation of an item, with each participant providing one or more of the prerequisites. In some cases, cooperation may even be necessary, such as if one character knows some of the spells necessary to create an item and another character knows the rest." Means a 7th level Wizard and a 20th level Commoner can group together to manufacture Vestments of Faith. Greg [/QUOTE]

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