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Did WotC underestimate the Paizo effect on 4E?
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<blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 5265654" data-attributes="member: 467"><p>I am flabergasted by the suggestion by some that Paizo/Pathfinder some how does not compete with WotC/4E or threaten its customer base.</p><p></p><p>Paizo/Pathfinder competes directly with WotC and 4E and "steals" customers is through their adventure paths and modules. Not to put too fine a point on it, WotC gave Paizo the tools to steal customers by making an edition that is not particularly backward compatible or even easily converted. People love Paizo modules and adventure paths, for the quality of their design, the art, and the fluff. So they purchase them. IF those modules and adventure paths could be easily used with 4E, then WotC would reap the benefits of Paizo's talents without even having to have an official partnership. But it isn't, and since what actually happens at the table matters, some people, because they use and prefer Paizo's modules and adventure paths, choose to use Pathfinder instead of 4E.</p><p></p><p>Of course't he reverse is true also: it is relatively common for people on this board and elsewhere to lament that Paizo doesn't make 4E compatible adventures, and if they did folks would buy them in a moment. The extent to which one offsets the other is unknown, but I would guess that since Paizo is a smaller company with a lower margin for "success", the customers it gains for Pathfinder via the adventure paths and modules outweigh those it loses from not producing 4E content.</p><p></p><p>I do think that if Paizo a) lowered the bar to entry via a "lite" or "basic" version of the game, and b) made their non-adventure path module aspect as strong as the adventure path aspect, they could make an even bigger dent in the "D&D" market.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Reynard, post: 5265654, member: 467"] I am flabergasted by the suggestion by some that Paizo/Pathfinder some how does not compete with WotC/4E or threaten its customer base. Paizo/Pathfinder competes directly with WotC and 4E and "steals" customers is through their adventure paths and modules. Not to put too fine a point on it, WotC gave Paizo the tools to steal customers by making an edition that is not particularly backward compatible or even easily converted. People love Paizo modules and adventure paths, for the quality of their design, the art, and the fluff. So they purchase them. IF those modules and adventure paths could be easily used with 4E, then WotC would reap the benefits of Paizo's talents without even having to have an official partnership. But it isn't, and since what actually happens at the table matters, some people, because they use and prefer Paizo's modules and adventure paths, choose to use Pathfinder instead of 4E. Of course't he reverse is true also: it is relatively common for people on this board and elsewhere to lament that Paizo doesn't make 4E compatible adventures, and if they did folks would buy them in a moment. The extent to which one offsets the other is unknown, but I would guess that since Paizo is a smaller company with a lower margin for "success", the customers it gains for Pathfinder via the adventure paths and modules outweigh those it loses from not producing 4E content. I do think that if Paizo a) lowered the bar to entry via a "lite" or "basic" version of the game, and b) made their non-adventure path module aspect as strong as the adventure path aspect, they could make an even bigger dent in the "D&D" market. [/QUOTE]
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