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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balthaczar" data-source="post: 5265930" data-attributes="member: 54882">To late for the earlier poll? My group and I were playing 3.5 Rise of the Runelords. 4e was coming down the line and we were genuinely excited. At the end of Runelords we had planned on switching and going fresh. 4e came out, turned out it was nothing like what we wanted so we stuck with 3.5. I was going to keep doing Ap's and buying pathfinder supplements because of the quality. Switched to ALPHA ,BETA and Final and have not looked back.I think the style and release strategy of the Essential line answers this threads main premise. While Scott Rouse did say they had a multiyear strategy, and one of those years was bringing in new players, this is a bit of a modification of that. The classes have 3rd edition and a smattering of 2e glued on to 4e  style and rules. WOTC also experimented with a 32 page players supplement that seemed familiar.   They have felt the competition, they have altered the product lines because of the competition. They defiantly underestimated Paizo. If they thought Paizo was a bigger threat they may not have dithered with the GSL or changed a few things. apologies for the jumbles, at work and had to interrupt several times thus screwballing my noodle. also since tone does not register, i am not trying to sarcastic  or aggressive, i really have enjoyed this thread and contribute what my group has experienced</blockquote>