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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnRTroy" data-source="post: 5266551" data-attributes="member: 2732">Two things when discussing this.Saying WoTC underestimated things refers to the company as a monolithic group mind, which from what I've seen is not the case.  At some rather small companies I've seen different marketing managers and CEOs come and go, and there can me major changes in company policy, not to mention internal squables with other departments.  Based on what I saw with their 3PP licensing issues (we'll have a license, we may not have a license, we can't release the license yet), I suspect there's a lot of differences in opinion going on at WoTC.  While I know what the original poster meant, it should also be noted that organizations are made up of individuals, and that I'm sure internal debated occurred during the planning stages of 4e and after.The one other thing I'd caution is saying "Will Paizo ever beat WoTC" as "never" as it was an unshakable fait acompli.  At one time, Microsoft "won" the browser wars, with over 90% of the market, while Netscape retrenched and eventually came back as Firefox.  Now, in the last few years we have a healthy alternatives with Firefox, Safari, and Chrome, while IE use continues to shrink.  One thing to remember in many cases competition always starts as small.  Paizo has sort of moved towards the #2 gaming publisher, if the ICV2 charts are accurate.  That's quite an accomplishment.  You gotta remember that competition usually starts little--remember when WoTC was a small little company that once had to worry about TSR?</blockquote>

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