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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 5267631" data-attributes="member: 9213">I think that WOTC and 4E are doing their thing over here and Paizo and Pathfinder are doing their thing over there. I think that crossover (and I mean players) between the two are few and far between and that's fine too. Even if WOTC lost 30% (really unlikely) of the 4E players that it had at the beginning of the launch they'd STILL be the number one RPG because of brand name recognition. There are plenty of people who play the game who dont post on message boards. they just go about their business and play the game Paizo has the fans that it has because of they care about crafting backgrounds and stories as well as superior production values. They make a GREAT looking product very much on par with WOTC (and sometimes surpassing them). They are also a haven for a lot of people who didnt like 4E for whatever reason. So as long as I have a player base (which was one of my fears when 4E came out and I realized the it wasn't a game that I was interested in running or playing) I don't care about 4E. I dont mean that in a negative way, it's just that it doesn't impact me in the slightest. Paizo makes a product that I want, WOTC does not. I was a customer of WOTC for 8 years straight. I have enough WOTC 3.0  & 3.5 books to choke a donkey.  Now I am not their customer. Paizo gets most if not all of my money these days.</blockquote>