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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bouncyhead" data-source="post: 5267688" data-attributes="member: 19115">Speaking from my own experience, I think the whole 'Paizo stole customers from WotC' idea is far more nuanced and malraux is about right.Our group were eager 4E switchers - we actually competed to see who would get hold of the core books first. So WotC got (and kept) their 4E cash from us - call it 7 sets of 3 core boxed sets at c. £50 each.We all dived in to the rules and came up a little underwhelmed but kicked off with KotS, played through, had a think and decided we would pass. It's a taste thing. A perfectly good game and all of that. I absolutely understand the thinking behind the re-worked spine of the game, but the end result was not for us.Because of RL issues we don't play as much as we should - 4E had actually been the shiny to get us playing again - and we kind of lapsed back into semi-retirement.To get things ticking over again I thought I'd follow up something I'd heard about Paizo adventure paths - I knew virtually nothing about them at this point - and liked the look of Rise of the Runelords - from there I found out about the PF Beta. Downloaded, sought out a print copy and haven't looked back.  We all bought the Core Rules, a couple of us have the Bestiary and I have just bought a Game Mastery Guide.So PF didn't switch us from 4E, or 'steal' us from WotC. We had jumped off that train already. There is an argument that if 4E had been a better to fit for us we would have also dropped £xxx on the next two rounds of core rules, perhaps a couple of adventures and three or four of us would maintain a DDI sub, but that's another bucket of frogs entirely.To the OP - I very much doubt that WotC underestimated the 'Paizo effect'. As has been said elsewhere, they must have anticipated that those that did not adopt 4E would be a great target market for a 3PP under the OGL.</blockquote>

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