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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wicht" data-source="post: 5268060" data-attributes="member: 221">People keep mentioning they disagree with my statement so I thought I would take a moment to defend it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I'm most certainly not giving solid numbers. I don't know what the numbers are. What I am saying is that I would not be suprised to find though the numbers were somewhere in that range, at the moment at least. Also, please note I didn't say 40%, I said between 25 and 40%. Also, by market, I don't mean what people are playing, I mean what people are buying. That is an important distinction. I would guess the number of RPG players or groups to be doing Pathfinder to be between 10 and 25% of the whole; though I again would not be surprised to see that number increase. The numbers are just speculation, though mildly informed speculation. Last year, somewhere between 10 and 15% of the members of this messageboard iirc answered to playing Pathfinder predominantly. Since then, Paizo has only improved their position in the market. They are the #2 selling RPG according to most avalaible rankings. They outsell 4e in some regions and even on Amazon they maintain a pretty decent showing in the RPG ranks.  I do find the idea that some people have, that Paizo can only be successful in a shrinking market, to be strange. Markets change. Nothing, in business remains static forever. When I was a kid IBM was The Computer Company. But I suspect my children have little or no idea what IBM is. There is always the possibility of the market growing and new players seizing sizeable chunks of business real-estate. Paizo's products appeal to people. To many of us, they are far more appealing than 4e. I am not so naive to think that others like whatever I like. At the same time, I do think I have a decent amount of taste and can recognize quality when I see it. I also have faith that most other people can as well, if they care to do so.Edit: One other point to consider when asking "what are people buying?" How many 4e DMs buy Paizo adventures and setting books to mine them for idea. A few? More than a few?  Now ask yourself, "When is the last time you heard a Pathfinder DM say they were buying a 4e adventure or setting book to mine it for ideas. Less than a few would be my guess. Close to none in fact. Think about that: even non-pathfinder players buy Paizo products. Anecdotally, that does not seem to be working in reverse. I know that I haven't bought a single WotC product since the release of 4e that I can think of (though I have bought several Hasbro products). My kids have bought a few magic decks and I have considered buying the New 3Dragon Ante but thats it.</blockquote>

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