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<blockquote data-quote="jaerdaph" data-source="post: 5269045" data-attributes="member: 3398">The more I think about it, the more I realize that the answer to the question is &quot;No, WotC did not underestimate the effect of Paizo and Pathfinder&quot;. WotC has taken all the steps to insure that when 5e comes out, nobody will be able to successfully produce a 4e &quot;Pathfinder&quot;. The OGL and SRD made Pathfinder possible, and those pieces just don't exist for 4e. I also believe that only Paizo could have made Pathfinder happen. Only Paizo had the name recognition (thanks to the years of publishing DRAGON and DUNGEON), the creative staff, the and the customer base to make it work. If Paizo didn't produce Pathfinder, there was nobody in the position to produce a continuation of 3.5e. Sure, we would have had a lot more &quot;fantasy heartbreakers&quot; from 3PPs and others, but I believe taken together, all those attempts would not have equaled the success of Pathfinder. I'm also under no delusions that anything sells more than 4e D&amp;D or even competes with WotC's 800 lb gorilla. But there still was enough of a market for Paizo to tap into to be a successful business nonetheless. It's kind of like this awesome little candy store around the corner from me. They make the best chocolates, and I would buy a box of their candy over a box of Russell Stovers any day. And even though I know they will never become as large as or make the money that Russell Stovers makes, I still think they have the superior product.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jaerdaph, post: 5269045, member: 3398"] The more I think about it, the more I realize that the answer to the question is "No, WotC did not underestimate the effect of Paizo and [I]Pathfinder[/I]". WotC has taken all the steps to insure that when 5e comes out, nobody will be able to successfully produce a 4e "[I]Pathfinder[/I]". The OGL and SRD made [I]Pathfinder [/I]possible, and those pieces just don't exist for 4e. I also believe that only Paizo could have made [I]Pathfinder [/I]happen. Only Paizo had the name recognition (thanks to the years of publishing DRAGON and DUNGEON), the creative staff, the and the customer base to make it work. If Paizo didn't produce [I]Pathfinder[/I], there was nobody in the position to produce a continuation of 3.5e. Sure, we would have had a lot more "fantasy heartbreakers" from 3PPs and others, but I believe taken together, all those attempts would not have equaled the success of [I]Pathfinder[/I]. I'm also under no delusions that anything sells more than 4e D&D or even competes with WotC's 800 lb gorilla. But there still was enough of a market for Paizo to tap into to be a successful business nonetheless. It's kind of like this awesome little candy store around the corner from me. They make the best chocolates, and I would buy a box of their candy over a box of Russell Stovers any day. And even though I know they will never become as large as or make the money that Russell Stovers makes, I still think they have the superior product. [/QUOTE]

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