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<blockquote data-quote="Votan" data-source="post: 5272308" data-attributes="member: 18680">I freely admit to having both a 4E game (online) and a Pathfinder game.&nbsp; As I continue to see new Pathfinder products I become increasingly impressed with the production values and the quality of writing.&nbsp; While I agree that &quot;success&quot; is an arbitrary criterion, many successful projects have begun with IP that was developed by another party.For example, Chris Claremont clearly added a lot to the X-Men in his 17 year run even if he never really did launch a successful book that he developed.&nbsp; Apple did a lot to take ideas first looked at by Xerox park and made some pretty amazing software.In my opinion (admittedly a pure opinion), I think that you can start with another IP and end up putting your own stamp on it.&nbsp; I admit that it is a higher threshold but I could see Paizo reaching it by adding enough value to the d20 basis.&nbsp; That being said, D&amp;D 3.5 was a pretty successful system so they are not setting themselves a low bar. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/worried.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":-S" title="Uhm&nbsp; &nbsp; :-S" data-shortname=":-S" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Votan, post: 5272308, member: 18680"] I freely admit to having both a 4E game (online) and a Pathfinder game. As I continue to see new Pathfinder products I become increasingly impressed with the production values and the quality of writing. While I agree that "success" is an arbitrary criterion, many successful projects have begun with IP that was developed by another party. For example, Chris Claremont clearly added a lot to the X-Men in his 17 year run even if he never really did launch a successful book that he developed. Apple did a lot to take ideas first looked at by Xerox park and made some pretty amazing software. In my opinion (admittedly a pure opinion), I think that you can start with another IP and end up putting your own stamp on it. I admit that it is a higher threshold but I could see Paizo reaching it by adding enough value to the d20 basis. That being said, D&D 3.5 was a pretty successful system so they are not setting themselves a low bar. :-S [/QUOTE]

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