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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wicht" data-source="post: 5272618" data-attributes="member: 221">My bad, I thought you were talking about being in some sort of "league," not the value of the brand. My point was that Paizo most certainly plays in the same league as these others, considering their products sit on the shelf right next to each other and Paizo has size, sales and experience to rival almost any other RPG company.As far as brand value, of course Dungeons and Dragons (and Warhammer) has better brand value and pedigree. This has little to do with being first to the market and everything to do with the fact they are seasoned commodities that have weathered changes and time. But this goes back to a point I made earlier to you. Pathfinder is only 1 or two years old. When Warhammer was 1 or 2 years old they did not have any of the things you are mentioning they have today. These things take time and some of your posts seem to be suggesting it is unreasonable to assume Paizo will continue to grow their brand in the same way others have grown their brands. As far as I can tell, Paizo is managing their brand very well for all of its youthfulness.</blockquote>