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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5438413" data-attributes="member: 59506">@<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=26438" target="_blank">banshee</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;I believe you are working on an assumption that may or may not be correct...though I think it's probably not. The assumption is that players had to stay away from 4E in order to have a sufficient number of people to support Pathfinder.&nbsp;Why is it that we assume that if someone plays one of those games (4E or Pathfinder), that same person can't, or won't, also play the other?&nbsp;Why is it that we also assume, that had 4E been more popular and garnered more 3E fans to it, that Pathfinder (or any continuation of 3.x) would not have been possible?&nbsp;I think we are without sufficient data (outside of WotC and Paizo market research and polls), to allow for such assumptions.&nbsp; I also believe there's an &quot;Us versus Them&quot; and &quot;Either/Or&quot; presumption present in such assumptions.&nbsp;&nbsp;This seems a bit contradictory to me, so I'm attempting to gain some clarification so as to avoid making any assumptions...&nbsp;If most people in your area seemed to be heading towards 4E, and you felt you were probably going to need to also (even though you weren't attracted to 4E), was it because you felt you wouldn't have enough people left to continue playing 3.x...?&nbsp;If the above is the case, then what difference did having Pathfinder make? If there weren't enough players available for 3.x due to the majority switching to 4E, then how were there enough people to play Pathfinder? And if there were enough people that didn't switch to 4E, why didn't you and they just continue with 3.x...?&nbsp;Was it &quot;cool&quot; that you didn't have to buy into 4E (due to the development of Pathfinder), because it meant you didn't have to buy into a system you weren't enamored of...or did you mean something else?&nbsp;Also, since you seem to have a good read on your area, can you tell me how many people in your area play both Pathfinder and 4E...?&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm&nbsp; &nbsp; :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 5438413, member: 59506"] @[U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=26438"]banshee[/URL][/U] I believe you are working on an assumption that may or may not be correct...though I think it's probably not. The assumption is that players had to stay away from 4E in order to have a sufficient number of people to support Pathfinder. Why is it that we assume that if someone plays one of those games (4E or Pathfinder), that same person can't, or won't, also play the other? Why is it that we also assume, that had 4E been more popular and garnered more 3E fans to it, that Pathfinder (or any continuation of 3.x) would not have been possible? I think we are without sufficient data (outside of WotC and Paizo market research and polls), to allow for such assumptions. I also believe there's an "Us versus Them" and "Either/Or" presumption present in such assumptions. This seems a bit contradictory to me, so I'm attempting to gain some clarification so as to avoid making any assumptions... If most people in your area seemed to be heading towards 4E, and you felt you were probably going to need to also (even though you weren't attracted to 4E), was it because you felt you wouldn't have enough people left to continue playing 3.x...? If the above is the case, then what difference did having Pathfinder make? If there weren't enough players available for 3.x due to the majority switching to 4E, then how were there enough people to play Pathfinder? And if there were enough people that didn't switch to 4E, why didn't you and they just continue with 3.x...? Was it "cool" that you didn't have to buy into 4E (due to the development of Pathfinder), because it meant you didn't have to buy into a system you weren't enamored of...or did you mean something else? Also, since you seem to have a good read on your area, can you tell me how many people in your area play both Pathfinder and 4E...? :hmm: [/QUOTE]

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