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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 5438433" data-attributes="member: 9213">I think that using these boards as well as Paizo's and WOTC's as an example I think that his assumption, no matter how much you may want to call him on it, is a fairly obvious one to come to. The edition warring that went on here, the Paizo bashing that went on on WOTC's forums (and to an extent here as well) and the disdain for Paizo on forums like RPG.net would definitely make it seem as if people have chosen sides. After 4E came out and even before it was actually there were MANY, MANY people here proclaiming that they would NEVER touch 3x again. That the game was broken, that save or die sucks (In fact, I think this discussion is STILL being had in one of the other threads on Enworld TODAY.) that confirming crits suck (they kinda do...), the 15 min workday, Casters in 3x being too powerful, OMG the PREP!!! and so on and so on. And the same kind of complaining from people who wanted to stick with 3x. 4E is a video game, don't like being forced to use miniatures, everyone is the same and it's variant everyone is special so no one is, 4E is table top world of warcraft and other dumbness.It's toned down a little bit since 2 (Has it really been that long?) years, but the animosity is still there. Even my players in my Pathfinder game some of whom had played 4E, take opportunities to talk about what they really didn't like about 4E. So yes there are people who play both but I think that they area small group and everybody else is playing one or the other and it's not an improper assumption to assume that.As far as personal experience goes, my group meets at least once a month in the Complete Strategist here in NYC. Every now and then our game is scheduled on the same day of the D&D Meetup group. When 4E came out people were playing 4E like it was gangbusters. I was pretty much the only person trying to run a 3.5 game there for a while and a couple of the organizers were real douches about it, so I stopped going and tried to avoid scheduling my games on the Meetup days. Like I said, every now and then I do meet on those days and I've noticed that not only are there fewer people showing up to play 4E on the Meetup Days (to be fair they meet in other locations around the city to play on the weekdays) but at least two of the groups that started out playing 4E are playing either Pathfinder or 3.5. I think maybe the guy who runs the other Pathfinder group might ALSO still be running 4E on occasion but the last time he was definitely running Pathfinder.</blockquote>

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