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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kafen" data-source="post: 5439000" data-attributes="member: 11273">You are talking about the guy that suggests giving the audience pleasure of the sort they get from waking up to a nightmare. Somehow, the idea of three saving throws to avoid death does not fit anything to do with Hitchcock's style if you ask me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /> Not being mean, I just do not see 4e death standards being related to the style you see in his movies. You get too many chances to live for it to be Hitchcock."Give them pleasure, the same pleasure they have when they wake up from a nightmare." - Alfred HitchcockEDIT: I suppose that a really good GM could convince a player that three saves is a tense moment, but I suspect it is a tough sell for most of us as GMs. "You are almost dead" three times in a row does not seem to have much bite to it however you phrase it...speaking for myself.</blockquote>