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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Odhanan" data-source="post: 5439389" data-attributes="member: 12324">Nope. We're back to the argument that each and every rule in a game is meaningless without a given context, that what truly matters is what the rules mean when they are used at an actual game table, and how, rather than consider numbers in a theoretical vacuum.Nope. My examples are not edition neutral. Whether the beholder will in effect use SoD or SSSoD effects will greatly affect the players' choices when they decide on a course of action, whether they go straight for the fight, or choose other possibilities. Same thing with a rust monster in front of you. Whether the rust monster destroys your equipment permanently or it is just temporarily incapacitated will affect player decision-making tremendously. And the fact that some threats are indeed, serious threats to the players' characters may prompt more variety on the players' parts in the way they handle such threats, rather than just say "aaah what the hell, at least I have that first save, even if I'm diseased, I could place a good one while you guys hit it too."</blockquote>