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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8633080" data-attributes="member: 18">I mean, that describes most RPGs. But it doesn't really describe 5E well, because it, like a minority of RPGs, is more interested in attrition. Indeed 5E may be the most attrition-oriented RPG out there. Most of the others that do this are either D&amp;D-relatives, or, interestingly, narrative games like a lot of PtbA/FitD games (not all of them), or Resistance-system games (Spire/Heart, for example)*.I gotta be honest here, it sounds like you're playing D&amp;D perfectly normally and just bumped up from Normal to Hard encounters, presumably because you have a well-optimised/organised group of PCs/players, but labelling others who don't do the same as having victory literally &quot;served up&quot; to them on a &quot;platinum platter&quot;, is just weird as hell given that.Like yeah, if your PCs are strong, you do need to use Hard or even Deadly encounters more! Otherwise it gets dull! That doesn't at all seem like what you were describing earlier though, which implied most fights were &quot;life and death&quot;.* = I wonder if the attrition model vs. life-and-death model has been been explored much in RPG theory? It seems separate from GNS.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8633080, member: 18"] I mean, that describes most RPGs. But it doesn't really describe 5E well, because it, like a minority of RPGs, is more interested in attrition. Indeed 5E may be the most attrition-oriented RPG out there. Most of the others that do this are either D&D-relatives, or, interestingly, narrative games like a lot of PtbA/FitD games (not all of them), or Resistance-system games (Spire/Heart, for example)*. I gotta be honest here, it sounds like you're playing D&D perfectly normally and just bumped up from Normal to Hard encounters, presumably because you have a well-optimised/organised group of PCs/players, but labelling others who don't do the same as having victory literally "served up" to them on a "platinum platter", is just weird as hell given that. Like yeah, if your PCs are strong, you do need to use Hard or even Deadly encounters more! Otherwise it gets dull! That doesn't at all seem like what you were describing earlier though, which implied most fights were "life and death". * = I wonder if the attrition model vs. life-and-death model has been been explored much in RPG theory? It seems separate from GNS. [/QUOTE]

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