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<blockquote data-quote="Chain Lightning" data-source="post: 490001" data-attributes="member: 6791"><p>I'm huge Bond fan, but I don't count myself one of those fans that's purist (spelling?) and that only the old formula should be used. </p><p></p><p>*MINOR SPOILERS BELOW*</p><p></p><p></p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p></p><p>But, I was disappointed in "Die Another Day". I like shaking and adding new things to the formula, but it still has to make sense. I think what I mean to say is, when it comes to writing the story....go ahead and deviate from formula. But when it comes to the 'Bond universe'....don't deviate.</p><p></p><p>Example: In the Bond universe, his gadgets are fantastical. However, they always maintained a level of possible realism. You looked at them and thought, "yeah I could see that being made in about 5-10 years" or "yeah, I could see someone building one of those if they had enough money and motivation to do it." But Bond gadgets were never....never....never so far Sci-Fi into the future like they have been in this movie. </p><p></p><p>An invisible car? A perfect virtual reality simulator? If the car changed colors, I'd buy it. But it doesn't...it perfectly resembles the abilities of the Predator and the Klingon cloaking ability. That's way too far into the future. Even for Bond I can't buy it. Then there's the virtual reality simulator which looks and feels (obviously from Moneypenny's evidence) like the real thing. Too holo deck for me. I don't imagine any computer producing so many polygons per second to simulate 'perfect' reality for a LONG time. Okay....I know what you're gonna say. Bond is spy fantasy. And I agree, but the amount of fantasy mixed in has always been established. In this instance, I don't want them to go beyond previous established formula.</p><p></p><p> Yes, Bond has never been captured before....that breaking of formula I like. Break story formula, but don't break the estabished universe.</p><p></p><p>After all that, I would still be willing to enjoy the film had the directing and editing been better. And some of the story too. Great premise though. Love it. The execution however....ugh.</p><p></p><p>I did enjoy it more that "The World is Not Enough". But only slightly more. Even that didn't break the Bond reality barrier. </p><p></p><p>Oh, and the credit sequence I thought was unimaginative and boring. Ever credit sequence should be an artistic exercise of adding something new to the family of previous sequences. This one didnt' add anything new. Girls made to look like other materials? This time ice and fire, been there already. "Tommorrow Never Dies" had circuit women, and "World" had oil women. I liked the GoldenEye sequence best still. It took the old, and made it new. And it least it had real women in it. </p><p></p><p>With the characters, I thought Gustav and Frost were great. I found Jinx to be uncharismatic and didn't really connect with her. Maybe something to do with her lines or her performance. Halle doesn't seem to move like an agent. Pierce moves through a scene with his gun ready so suave and convincingly.</p><p></p><p>But I did like Rosamund Pike as Frost. She was a nice fresh addition to the Bond girls. I thought I would walk into the film going ga ga for Halle (cuz she is gorgeous) but I ended up falling for Rosamund instead. Very charming.</p><p></p><p>I'm hoping the next Bond film (if there is one) will be better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chain Lightning, post: 490001, member: 6791"] I'm huge Bond fan, but I don't count myself one of those fans that's purist (spelling?) and that only the old formula should be used. *MINOR SPOILERS BELOW* . . . . . . . . . . But, I was disappointed in "Die Another Day". I like shaking and adding new things to the formula, but it still has to make sense. I think what I mean to say is, when it comes to writing the story....go ahead and deviate from formula. But when it comes to the 'Bond universe'....don't deviate. Example: In the Bond universe, his gadgets are fantastical. However, they always maintained a level of possible realism. You looked at them and thought, "yeah I could see that being made in about 5-10 years" or "yeah, I could see someone building one of those if they had enough money and motivation to do it." But Bond gadgets were never....never....never so far Sci-Fi into the future like they have been in this movie. An invisible car? A perfect virtual reality simulator? If the car changed colors, I'd buy it. But it doesn't...it perfectly resembles the abilities of the Predator and the Klingon cloaking ability. That's way too far into the future. Even for Bond I can't buy it. Then there's the virtual reality simulator which looks and feels (obviously from Moneypenny's evidence) like the real thing. Too holo deck for me. I don't imagine any computer producing so many polygons per second to simulate 'perfect' reality for a LONG time. Okay....I know what you're gonna say. Bond is spy fantasy. And I agree, but the amount of fantasy mixed in has always been established. In this instance, I don't want them to go beyond previous established formula. Yes, Bond has never been captured before....that breaking of formula I like. Break story formula, but don't break the estabished universe. After all that, I would still be willing to enjoy the film had the directing and editing been better. And some of the story too. Great premise though. Love it. The execution however....ugh. I did enjoy it more that "The World is Not Enough". But only slightly more. Even that didn't break the Bond reality barrier. Oh, and the credit sequence I thought was unimaginative and boring. Ever credit sequence should be an artistic exercise of adding something new to the family of previous sequences. This one didnt' add anything new. Girls made to look like other materials? This time ice and fire, been there already. "Tommorrow Never Dies" had circuit women, and "World" had oil women. I liked the GoldenEye sequence best still. It took the old, and made it new. And it least it had real women in it. With the characters, I thought Gustav and Frost were great. I found Jinx to be uncharismatic and didn't really connect with her. Maybe something to do with her lines or her performance. Halle doesn't seem to move like an agent. Pierce moves through a scene with his gun ready so suave and convincingly. But I did like Rosamund Pike as Frost. She was a nice fresh addition to the Bond girls. I thought I would walk into the film going ga ga for Halle (cuz she is gorgeous) but I ended up falling for Rosamund instead. Very charming. I'm hoping the next Bond film (if there is one) will be better. [/QUOTE]
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