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<blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 1458879" data-attributes="member: 1134">IMO overall 3.0 after errata and the faqs is by far the superior product.&nbsp; Me I'd go 3.0with the haste, harm and polymorph spell changes with the 3.5 ranger, bard, monk, sorcerer, and druid. And read and use the 3.5 grapple rules since there much clearer. Spell changes really suck I mean really, really suck.&nbsp; It turned many spells into spells that suck so bad you'd have to being intentionally playing bad to use them.&nbsp; (stat buffs, the many spells split into multiples instead of general purpose, and more I can't think of)&nbsp;&nbsp; And dang some things like the darkness/concealment rules suck.&nbsp; Sure its simplified now it just happens to be dumb.&nbsp; Yeah I can't shank people in a dark alley anymore.&nbsp; And other rules that sound good are don't work in play.&nbsp; Hey you can't hide if there isn't somce cover or concealment.&nbsp; Sounds good, a person shouldn't be able to sneak down a guarded hallway that is well lit with no cover.&nbsp; But someone should be able to sneak up on someone in broad daylight without cover.&nbsp; Sure I can hand wave it and say well he's sneaking up behind he doesn't have to hide he just has to beat the listen check.&nbsp; Unless someone specifically is saying I'm looking this way though your spot rolls would normally include things behind you cause occasionally people do glance around, but hey hand waves can work.Some feats are poorly balanced or modified to avoid cheats and end up damaging the non cheaters in legitimite uses.&nbsp; For example improved trip now is a bit unbalanced in many campaigns.&nbsp; Whirlwind attack no longer works with cleave and other extra attack producers.&nbsp; Why because of the bucket of snails cheat.&nbsp; Well geez that's great so because a tiny group pulled off a dumb trick and there DM was to weak to just tell them no, the legitimite users od cleave and whirlwind combo get screwed.&nbsp; Great idea oh the bone you threw us that it now works with reach weapons tastes so good after your big meal of crap you served up.I could go on and on but the end result for me is 3.5 is overall worse, though the classes are a bit better designed and a couple spells are better and grapple is explained much better.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shard O'Glase, post: 1458879, member: 1134"] IMO overall 3.0 after errata and the faqs is by far the superior product. Me I'd go 3.0with the haste, harm and polymorph spell changes with the 3.5 ranger, bard, monk, sorcerer, and druid. And read and use the 3.5 grapple rules since there much clearer. Spell changes really suck I mean really, really suck. It turned many spells into spells that suck so bad you'd have to being intentionally playing bad to use them. (stat buffs, the many spells split into multiples instead of general purpose, and more I can't think of) And dang some things like the darkness/concealment rules suck. Sure its simplified now it just happens to be dumb. Yeah I can't shank people in a dark alley anymore. And other rules that sound good are don't work in play. Hey you can't hide if there isn't somce cover or concealment. Sounds good, a person shouldn't be able to sneak down a guarded hallway that is well lit with no cover. But someone should be able to sneak up on someone in broad daylight without cover. Sure I can hand wave it and say well he's sneaking up behind he doesn't have to hide he just has to beat the listen check. Unless someone specifically is saying I'm looking this way though your spot rolls would normally include things behind you cause occasionally people do glance around, but hey hand waves can work. Some feats are poorly balanced or modified to avoid cheats and end up damaging the non cheaters in legitimite uses. For example improved trip now is a bit unbalanced in many campaigns. Whirlwind attack no longer works with cleave and other extra attack producers. Why because of the bucket of snails cheat. Well geez that's great so because a tiny group pulled off a dumb trick and there DM was to weak to just tell them no, the legitimite users od cleave and whirlwind combo get screwed. Great idea oh the bone you threw us that it now works with reach weapons tastes so good after your big meal of crap you served up. I could go on and on but the end result for me is 3.5 is overall worse, though the classes are a bit better designed and a couple spells are better and grapple is explained much better. [/QUOTE]

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