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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tormyr" data-source="post: 6374572" data-attributes="member: 6776887">Please be more careful about how you go about your arguing.  As has been demonstrated in this thread, many intelligent people have come down on both sides of this (extremely minor) issue.  I believe that the rules can be interpreted two different ways depending on where you start.  While the Champions text says you score  a critical hit, a critical hit is defined in the rules as double damage.  For some reason, they went out of their way to define a 20 as automatically hitting and then said it is additionally a critical hit.  Meanwhile, both the Champion text and the Critical Hit text use the phrase "score a critical hit".  It can reasonably be read both ways, and it very easily could have been changed slightly to leave no ambiguity anywhere in the text while still using natural language.  I came here to ask the community for their reasoned opinion more for interest than worrying about something I might not see for years.I have been hugely satisfied (happy, ecstatic) with 5e.  My players think I have an even hand running the table and make common sense rulings.  I have a firm grasp of the English language.  I started this thread admitting that this was an extreme corner case.  Please do not insinuate that I or anyone else who has commented in a manner contrary to your opinion are unhappy with 5e, lack common sense, are focused on rules-lawyering or misunderstand basic rules of the English language.Even if you are right in an argument, you can be wrong based on how you deliver it.Sorry for blasting you on this.  I doubt you meant what you wrote as an insult.  I already PMed somebody else about their arguments starting to move from being about the subject at hand to about the person on the other side of the argument.  Your post was the second that I have seen moving in that direction.  One of the things I have appreciated about these boards (the D&D section; I don't really go elsewhere) is the lack of fighting and flame wars (at least since I have been on the boards).  I have looked on on several other boards where people act poorly, and I appreciate that it does not seem to take hold here.I think as much as possible has been said about 3 paragraphs in the PHB.  It may be time to let this post slide off of the first page.  I had no idea my question would spawn this much discussion.</blockquote>

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