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<blockquote data-quote="AdmundfortGeographer" data-source="post: 3073608" data-attributes="member: 4682"><p>Close, but not quite. Blackmoor (Arneson's setting) was distinct from Greyhawk (Gygax's setting). In the early days of D&D's development Arneson hosted a sidetrek for Mordenkainen (Gygax's PC) to adventure in his Blackmoor.</p><p></p><p>Gygax put in a "Blackmoor" into the Flanaess where he could say that is where Mordenkainen went. That "Blackmoor" was of Gygax's own creation and had little connection with Arneson's "Blackmoor". Until the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer there was no mention of the Greyhawk setting "Blackmoor" having the Egg of Coot. I forget if it was Erik Mona or maybe Gary Holian who said this is an old "Greychat" session, but one of the co-authors of the LGG said it was their idea to co-opt some of the Arneson "Blackmoor" material with a twist. Something about there was some dimensional warping event in Blackmoor's history caused multiple "Blackmoors" and "Eggs of Coot" to be installed across the multiverse. If anything it opened up the possibility of co-opting more of the Mystara classics, like the Isle of Dread now having a duplicate in Greyhawk as well (see Paizo's new Adventure Path).</p><p></p><p>And the official Blackmoor products have never had mention of there being a "Land of Black Ice" being in Arneson's Blackmoor.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, Arneson's Blackmoor was officially installed in the history of the Known World/Mystara setting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AdmundfortGeographer, post: 3073608, member: 4682"] Close, but not quite. Blackmoor (Arneson's setting) was distinct from Greyhawk (Gygax's setting). In the early days of D&D's development Arneson hosted a sidetrek for Mordenkainen (Gygax's PC) to adventure in his Blackmoor. Gygax put in a "Blackmoor" into the Flanaess where he could say that is where Mordenkainen went. That "Blackmoor" was of Gygax's own creation and had little connection with Arneson's "Blackmoor". Until the Living Greyhawk Gazetteer there was no mention of the Greyhawk setting "Blackmoor" having the Egg of Coot. I forget if it was Erik Mona or maybe Gary Holian who said this is an old "Greychat" session, but one of the co-authors of the LGG said it was their idea to co-opt some of the Arneson "Blackmoor" material with a twist. Something about there was some dimensional warping event in Blackmoor's history caused multiple "Blackmoors" and "Eggs of Coot" to be installed across the multiverse. If anything it opened up the possibility of co-opting more of the Mystara classics, like the Isle of Dread now having a duplicate in Greyhawk as well (see Paizo's new Adventure Path). And the official Blackmoor products have never had mention of there being a "Land of Black Ice" being in Arneson's Blackmoor. Lastly, Arneson's Blackmoor was officially installed in the history of the Known World/Mystara setting. [/QUOTE]
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