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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stonegod" data-source="post: 4167885" data-attributes="member: 36973">I've played both in FR (2-3.5) and Eberron (more recently), and I disagree on some of the OP points.First, FR has a very heavily invested contingent, much more so than Eberron. Take a look at Candlekeep (candlekeep.org IIRC). So, I wouldn't say either is better for new players. 4E is Realms is actually supposed to make it easier for new folks than earlier editions because of that huge history; Eberron doesn't have the perceived yolk as much in my experience.Secondly, I wouldn't say Eberron is blase about magic. A lot of utility stuff is common, true, but a village in the middle of Breland isn't expecting control winds and control weather every day, week, or year or anything. Things that make society run better are prevelant in the cosmopolitan places, but I wouldn't call it omnipresent. Rural areas are just as prevalent in Eberron as they are in the FR; and in FR, you can still get to a cosmopolitan area almost as easily as in Eberron (if you're near a lightning rail, *which is rare*; otherwise, its still cart and carriage). And there are plenty of places of unknowns and regions of discovery: Xen'drik, the Demon Wastes, the Jungle of Q'Barra, the mysteries of Argonessen.Now, if you/your players are very familiar with Eberron, then FR would be a difference for them. Something less explored. Doesn't make either friendlier to newbies. The fact that FR is getting full support in Year 1 and Eberron not until Year 2 does have a factor, however.Finally, I need to respond to this quote:I believe this to be the single most misquoted thing about the ECS. The quote from the ECS is "If it exists in D&D, then it has a place in Eberron." Not the same intent. The idea is that you can incorporate it, not that is *must* be incorporated. Dragonborn swordsages and their half-farspawn dread necromancers are not walking down the streets of rural Karrnath.So, in conclusion, I don't think you're totally wrong: Reboots do give a sense of fresh air, and the initial 4E FR support will make 4E Realms easier to get into. However, I do not think FR or Eberron as a campaign setting are inherently easier to get into.</blockquote>

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