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<blockquote data-quote="abirdcall" data-source="post: 7956491" data-attributes="member: 6748898"><p>It's because it is an RPG not a competitive strategy game.</p><p></p><p>There are too many variables to determine what is an optimal way of going about the game.</p><p></p><p>In an RPG the greatest commodity is spotlight time and the greatest reward is fun and hopefully enabling others to have fun.</p><p></p><p>When I look at whether something is good I'm looking at whether it will represent in the game what it claims to be representing in the rules. </p><p></p><p>Will this be fun to use? Are there interesting choices involved and ones which are informed by the narrative. Etc.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, there is no way to figure out who is actually right. People can't even agree on who is right in competitive strategy games and there are actual winners there.</p><p></p><p>As far as GitP - If you ever wanted to know what the term 'Group Think' means then there you go. The people who post there have a very narrow view of how they want to play the game both in goals and with rules and houserules and whatnot. Those who don't share those views get run out which creates an echo chamber. </p><p></p><p>It happens in strategy game groups often. A group of friends might have a favourite game and one friend wins a lot so everyone else tries to copy that person's strategy. Soon enough everyone is playing the game to implement the best version of that strategy. The group then takes their game to a convention and plays against people who have a different view of the game. If that person wins against their friends all the time then they probably think they are an expert and everyone else is wrong about what is the correct winning strategy. Thing with a strategy game though is that what is a good strategy can be determined by who wins. Even then I have seen many times where people latch onto their views that they are still right. </p><p></p><p>So you can imagine what happens when discussing RPGs. </p><p></p><p>Posting on GitP is a guilty pleasure of mine. I disagree with 90% of the people there on just about everything. I have most people on 'ignore' so I can scroll through their huge threads and read the posts by either new people or ones I share a similar gaming philosophy with. I don't normally engage with most of the people there as I find the way they play to be alien to all I've ever known. Still, sometimes I will do a hit and run and drop a dissenting voice.</p><p></p><p>I post here for regular engaging D&D discussion. About the game but a lot of the discussion here involves news. </p><p></p><p>I made a ranking of spells for my personal use and as something to do during quarantine. I posted it to spur discussion. I know full well lots of people will disagree with me and there is no actual way to resolve who is right. I disagree with most people's evaluation of things too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="abirdcall, post: 7956491, member: 6748898"] It's because it is an RPG not a competitive strategy game. There are too many variables to determine what is an optimal way of going about the game. In an RPG the greatest commodity is spotlight time and the greatest reward is fun and hopefully enabling others to have fun. When I look at whether something is good I'm looking at whether it will represent in the game what it claims to be representing in the rules. Will this be fun to use? Are there interesting choices involved and ones which are informed by the narrative. Etc. Furthermore, there is no way to figure out who is actually right. People can't even agree on who is right in competitive strategy games and there are actual winners there. As far as GitP - If you ever wanted to know what the term 'Group Think' means then there you go. The people who post there have a very narrow view of how they want to play the game both in goals and with rules and houserules and whatnot. Those who don't share those views get run out which creates an echo chamber. It happens in strategy game groups often. A group of friends might have a favourite game and one friend wins a lot so everyone else tries to copy that person's strategy. Soon enough everyone is playing the game to implement the best version of that strategy. The group then takes their game to a convention and plays against people who have a different view of the game. If that person wins against their friends all the time then they probably think they are an expert and everyone else is wrong about what is the correct winning strategy. Thing with a strategy game though is that what is a good strategy can be determined by who wins. Even then I have seen many times where people latch onto their views that they are still right. So you can imagine what happens when discussing RPGs. Posting on GitP is a guilty pleasure of mine. I disagree with 90% of the people there on just about everything. I have most people on 'ignore' so I can scroll through their huge threads and read the posts by either new people or ones I share a similar gaming philosophy with. I don't normally engage with most of the people there as I find the way they play to be alien to all I've ever known. Still, sometimes I will do a hit and run and drop a dissenting voice. I post here for regular engaging D&D discussion. About the game but a lot of the discussion here involves news. I made a ranking of spells for my personal use and as something to do during quarantine. I posted it to spur discussion. I know full well lots of people will disagree with me and there is no actual way to resolve who is right. I disagree with most people's evaluation of things too. [/QUOTE]
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