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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4125565" data-attributes="member: 40961">We don't know if HP progression is in fact different.But I feel confident in asserting that it is, because mathematically, it HAS to be.Hit points on their own are meaningless in terms of estimating your characters survivability.&nbsp; What matters is (Hit Points)/[(Chance of Being Hit)*(Average Damage Per Hit)].&nbsp; This produces a ratio that gives you an estimate of how long you survive in combat.&nbsp; Lets call it Survivability.&nbsp; Survivability is what matters, NOT hit points.Now, (Chance of Being Hit) stays about the same as you level up.&nbsp; That's part of the &quot;fixing the math&quot; thing the designers are always talking about.&nbsp; But (Average Damage Per Hit) goes up.This means that (Hit Points) have to go up in order to keep pace, if you want Survivability to stay the same regardless of level.Now lets say that a level 1 wizard and a level 1 fighter have different Survivability, and we want their Survivability ratings to be about the same with respect to one another as they level up.You can go ahead and do the math yourself.&nbsp; This means that Hit Points MUST increase differently for each character.&nbsp; If the Fighter has Survivability 10, and the Wizard has Survivability 7, and their hit points increase the same amount per level, you get problems.&nbsp; If you&nbsp; hold the Wizard's Survivability constant by setting the Hit Points to assure that it stays the same regardless of level, the Fighter's Survivability slowly falls.&nbsp; And if you set the Fighter's Survivability constant, and make hit point gain the same for both classes, the Wizard's Survivability slowly rises.You have to make them different for the math to work.&nbsp; A one time bonus frontloaded onto the class won't work because it will eventually get swamped by increased damage, destroying the Survivability factor, which is what really matters.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4125565, member: 40961"] We don't know if HP progression is in fact different. But I feel confident in asserting that it is, because mathematically, it HAS to be. Hit points on their own are meaningless in terms of estimating your characters survivability. What matters is (Hit Points)/[(Chance of Being Hit)*(Average Damage Per Hit)]. This produces a ratio that gives you an estimate of how long you survive in combat. Lets call it Survivability. Survivability is what matters, NOT hit points. Now, (Chance of Being Hit) stays about the same as you level up. That's part of the "fixing the math" thing the designers are always talking about. But (Average Damage Per Hit) goes up. This means that (Hit Points) have to go up in order to keep pace, if you want Survivability to stay the same regardless of level. Now lets say that a level 1 wizard and a level 1 fighter have different Survivability, and we want their Survivability ratings to be about the same with respect to one another as they level up. You can go ahead and do the math yourself. This means that Hit Points MUST increase differently for each character. If the Fighter has Survivability 10, and the Wizard has Survivability 7, and their hit points increase the same amount per level, you get problems. If you hold the Wizard's Survivability constant by setting the Hit Points to assure that it stays the same regardless of level, the Fighter's Survivability slowly falls. And if you set the Fighter's Survivability constant, and make hit point gain the same for both classes, the Wizard's Survivability slowly rises. You have to make them different for the math to work. A one time bonus frontloaded onto the class won't work because it will eventually get swamped by increased damage, destroying the Survivability factor, which is what really matters. [/QUOTE]

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