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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deinos" data-source="post: 5216550" data-attributes="member: 74998">Hey UK! In core 3.5, it notes that you can apply advancement to a golem at the rate of 5000 GP per HD (whether its a flesh, iron, ironwyrm, whatever) and something like 20000 or 50000 per size category. This is adjustment to the MARKET PRICE, so even still, a typical wizard will probably be able to afford a triple iron golem the moment And they have 54 hit dice, size huge, and an insane poison breath. One of my friends -- who I thought was a naive newbie -- made one for his first wizard char ever in 3e in a campaign I didn't myself participate in, for one of those DMs who think core 3e is balanced and its thems evil splatbooks that break stuff...  he pretty much Batmanned the whole campaign using core only with no browsing on optimization forums or anything of the sort, and it went into the epic levels.</blockquote>