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<blockquote data-quote="TessarrianDM" data-source="post: 4577544" data-attributes="member: 51798">a. You're welcome! b. It really depends on how many people are working on it. I would allow a group of four to dig the pits and build the wall/cover all at the same time, in the amount of time required to dig the pits. I wouldn't want to get into calculating how far they are carrying the dirt, how much they are carrying at one time, etc. Too much of a hassle.&nbsp;c. Yes, it could. However, if you wanted to go by that, why not just use Craft skill checks and the rules for building traps in the DMG? They would qualify as CR 1 pit traps, it but would take a lot longer to build using this method. Even if you rolled a natural 20 and had an 18 Int you would only get 480 sp worth of trap built in a week; a CR 1 camouflaged pit trap has a price of 1800 gp, requiring 37.5 weeks of work (if you rolled a 20 on every check)! I was looking at it more from a makeshift &quot;let's get this done quick&quot; point of view.&nbsp;d. No, there isn't, and I can see your point. A DC of 20 should be sufficient.&nbsp;Darkwolf71, as far as the times go, the amount of time it takes a PC with a Str 10 to clear a loose rock cave-in 5' x 5' x 5' with no tools would be 4 minutes (100 lb heavy load x 5 = 500 lbs./minute) according to the SRD (see OP), 2 minutes with a shovel. Going by that formula , the same PC could dig out a 5' x 5' x 10' deep pit full of loose rock in 8 minutes by hand. My times may be generous but not as generous as this!<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="TessarrianDM, post: 4577544, member: 51798"] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]a. You're welcome! [/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]b. It really depends on how many people are working on it. I would allow a group of four to dig the pits and build the wall/cover all at the same time, in the amount of time required to dig the pits. I wouldn't want to get into calculating how far they are carrying the dirt, how much they are carrying at one time, etc. Too much of a hassle.[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]c. Yes, it could. However, if you wanted to go by that, why not just use Craft skill checks and the rules for building traps in the DMG? They would qualify as CR 1 pit traps, it but would take a lot longer to build using this method. Even if you rolled a natural 20 and had an 18 Int you would only get 480 sp worth of trap built in a week; a CR 1 camouflaged pit trap has a price of 1800 gp, requiring 37.5 weeks of work (if you rolled a 20 on every check)! I was looking at it more from a makeshift "let's get this done quick" point of view.[/COLOR] d. No, there isn't, and I can see your point. A DC of 20 should be sufficient.[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Darkwolf71, as far as the times go, the amount of time it takes a PC with a Str 10 to clear a loose rock cave-in 5' x 5' x 5' with no tools would be 4 minutes (100 lb heavy load x 5 = 500 lbs./minute) according to the SRD (see OP), 2 minutes with a shovel. Going by that formula , the same PC could dig out a 5' x 5' x 10' deep pit full of loose rock in 8 minutes by hand. My times may be generous but not as generous as this!;)[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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