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<blockquote data-quote="Kaodi" data-source="post: 5699150" data-attributes="member: 1231"><p>Thank you for the advice, everyone. The majority position seems to be that giving up is not going to help, and having thought about it a bit, I think I will stick it out a while longer at least; by which I mean not quit, but still try to cut down at least. There are a number of things in the various replies that I should address though, I think.</p><p></p><p>- A few of you mentioned seeking professional counsel of some sort. This was in fact recommended to me by the school counsellor back in August, but it became one of the many things I put off. I thought I would be able to finish my work and then would set up an appointment, where it now seems that I should have set up the appointment first (because I have yet to finish my work, despite the fact that it now counts for nothing). Now I will end up paying out of pocket for it instead of it being covered by the school, but I believe it is just something I should in fact do. </p><p></p><p>- S'mon: Good God, have I spent a <em>TON</em> of time reading newspapers online. In fact, this is by far a worse outlet for procrastination than RPGs. I tend to read at least a few articles from the Toronto Star, the Globe & Mail, the Canadian edition of the Huffington Post and the English edition of Ha'aretz pretty much every day. I would have added it to the potential chopping block, but you cannot exactly cut the news entirely out of your life without serious ramifications, especially when one of your areas of study is politics. </p><p></p><p>- Dannyalcatraz: One of my professors whom I most closely befriended made this same point once about learning to work within your bad habits. It is a good point, but I guess I did not take the advice in time.</p><p></p><p>- Aberzanzorax: I sort of expect that the more I cut out the more I will procrastinate by doings chores; chores I should probably be doing anyway. I guess I thought that at terrible as avoiding what I should be doing by doing chores, even if I loathe them, that then I would at least be doing something useful. I live with my parents still (though I went away during the school year), and there is sooooo much that needs to be done around here, which increasingly seems like I may have to do myself, despite my inexperience. My inaction had made me passively horrible to my parents (at least my Mom; I feel less guilty about my Dad, who could use a chill pill himself).</p><p></p><p>- nedjer: This is the thing. I am not sure if there is anything that can make me feel different enough to be motivated. My feelings for my family have not been strong enough for me to overcome the inertia of inaction. Part of me still hopes that if I had a significant other (the fact that I have never been able to ask a girl out is probably a subject for the shrink), for her I would be able to get over my problems, but more and more I think that I this is merely the last holdout for my fooling myself about somehow feeling " differently " in the future; more motivated. The fact for instance that knowledge of what I must do to obtain anothers feelings has not motivated me to do anything leaves a lot of room for doubt. Now that I think of it, I suppose I hold similar hopes for if I worked in the public service, but there is way in which I could reasonably believe that anyone should hire me for that now. I am not comfortable with pretending to be a better candidate for a job than I am, which would be necessary I think for me to get anywhere. In fact, it feels like I am already disqualified from what I thought I really wanted to do: politics.</p><p></p><p>- ggroy: One of my housemates in second year made this observation as well. He felt that because he was always busy that he in fact was able to use his time really well. I am not sure how I could test this, however, without taking risks as to how much I can handle that could end even more poorly. </p><p></p><p>- was: I live in the country. There is a lot of fresh air and outdoors, but precious little of interest, and no people that share my interests, as far as I know. It is kind of vexxing, because as much as I need to go out and exercise more as well, there is nothing within my range that I can go to and enjoy.</p><p></p><p>- Celebrim: I am not quite sure I am clear on what you are saying, though I think it is important. That I should give up on trivial imaginations? I see the wisdom in that, I just have no idea how to do it. No idea how to forget wanting to try and conquer Europe or Japan with smart use of my troops in Total War, or exploring the wilderness and ruins and collecting things in the Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Those are currently the games that most occupy my mind. What is certainly strange in some ways about the latter case is that I am more compelled by the minutae or emergent gameplay styles than the combat and roleplaying aspects.</p><p></p><p>- Zelda Themalin: Indeed. I forget when it exactly it was, but either this past year or the one before it, I came to think that " New Years " is basically the bigger, more evil brother of " Tomorrow " and " Later " . The whole phenomenon of New Years Resolutions has begun to feel kind of perverse. </p><p></p><p>- Wiseblood: I am not sure what you mean. I suppose that in theory one is rewarded when one is done something, but I do not feel very strongly about the reward as I ought to. That is part of the problem I think. </p><p></p><p>The thing is, procrastination is so weird, yet so strong. Take for instance one of the things I should be doing: reading over a couple of articles on feminist contractarianism. One of the ways in which I avoided doing this when I was at the university library near where I live (a different university from the one I am enrolled in) was to <em>read other articles on feminism</em>, in this case two by professors at my university (the book itself was editted by the professor I was supposed to read it for). It is not even the <em>sort</em> of things being doing that is being avoided...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kaodi, post: 5699150, member: 1231"] Thank you for the advice, everyone. The majority position seems to be that giving up is not going to help, and having thought about it a bit, I think I will stick it out a while longer at least; by which I mean not quit, but still try to cut down at least. There are a number of things in the various replies that I should address though, I think. - A few of you mentioned seeking professional counsel of some sort. This was in fact recommended to me by the school counsellor back in August, but it became one of the many things I put off. I thought I would be able to finish my work and then would set up an appointment, where it now seems that I should have set up the appointment first (because I have yet to finish my work, despite the fact that it now counts for nothing). Now I will end up paying out of pocket for it instead of it being covered by the school, but I believe it is just something I should in fact do. - S'mon: Good God, have I spent a [I]TON[/I] of time reading newspapers online. In fact, this is by far a worse outlet for procrastination than RPGs. I tend to read at least a few articles from the Toronto Star, the Globe & Mail, the Canadian edition of the Huffington Post and the English edition of Ha'aretz pretty much every day. I would have added it to the potential chopping block, but you cannot exactly cut the news entirely out of your life without serious ramifications, especially when one of your areas of study is politics. - Dannyalcatraz: One of my professors whom I most closely befriended made this same point once about learning to work within your bad habits. It is a good point, but I guess I did not take the advice in time. - Aberzanzorax: I sort of expect that the more I cut out the more I will procrastinate by doings chores; chores I should probably be doing anyway. I guess I thought that at terrible as avoiding what I should be doing by doing chores, even if I loathe them, that then I would at least be doing something useful. I live with my parents still (though I went away during the school year), and there is sooooo much that needs to be done around here, which increasingly seems like I may have to do myself, despite my inexperience. My inaction had made me passively horrible to my parents (at least my Mom; I feel less guilty about my Dad, who could use a chill pill himself). - nedjer: This is the thing. I am not sure if there is anything that can make me feel different enough to be motivated. My feelings for my family have not been strong enough for me to overcome the inertia of inaction. Part of me still hopes that if I had a significant other (the fact that I have never been able to ask a girl out is probably a subject for the shrink), for her I would be able to get over my problems, but more and more I think that I this is merely the last holdout for my fooling myself about somehow feeling " differently " in the future; more motivated. The fact for instance that knowledge of what I must do to obtain anothers feelings has not motivated me to do anything leaves a lot of room for doubt. Now that I think of it, I suppose I hold similar hopes for if I worked in the public service, but there is way in which I could reasonably believe that anyone should hire me for that now. I am not comfortable with pretending to be a better candidate for a job than I am, which would be necessary I think for me to get anywhere. In fact, it feels like I am already disqualified from what I thought I really wanted to do: politics. - ggroy: One of my housemates in second year made this observation as well. He felt that because he was always busy that he in fact was able to use his time really well. I am not sure how I could test this, however, without taking risks as to how much I can handle that could end even more poorly. - was: I live in the country. There is a lot of fresh air and outdoors, but precious little of interest, and no people that share my interests, as far as I know. It is kind of vexxing, because as much as I need to go out and exercise more as well, there is nothing within my range that I can go to and enjoy. - Celebrim: I am not quite sure I am clear on what you are saying, though I think it is important. That I should give up on trivial imaginations? I see the wisdom in that, I just have no idea how to do it. No idea how to forget wanting to try and conquer Europe or Japan with smart use of my troops in Total War, or exploring the wilderness and ruins and collecting things in the Elder Scrolls and Fallout. Those are currently the games that most occupy my mind. What is certainly strange in some ways about the latter case is that I am more compelled by the minutae or emergent gameplay styles than the combat and roleplaying aspects. - Zelda Themalin: Indeed. I forget when it exactly it was, but either this past year or the one before it, I came to think that " New Years " is basically the bigger, more evil brother of " Tomorrow " and " Later " . The whole phenomenon of New Years Resolutions has begun to feel kind of perverse. - Wiseblood: I am not sure what you mean. I suppose that in theory one is rewarded when one is done something, but I do not feel very strongly about the reward as I ought to. That is part of the problem I think. The thing is, procrastination is so weird, yet so strong. Take for instance one of the things I should be doing: reading over a couple of articles on feminist contractarianism. One of the ways in which I avoided doing this when I was at the university library near where I live (a different university from the one I am enrolled in) was to [I]read other articles on feminism[/I], in this case two by professors at my university (the book itself was editted by the professor I was supposed to read it for). It is not even the [I]sort[/I] of things being doing that is being avoided... [/QUOTE]
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