Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is LIVE! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Dilettante & Implements
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="spanglemaker" data-source="post: 4390267" data-attributes="member: 66557"><p>I thought that the PHB said that you may only use Dilletante for Level 1 at Will powers from classes converting them to an Encounter Power. A Half Elf should not be able to duplicate any racial powers. Half Elves may take any Human or Elven Feat.</p><p> </p><p>It may be nerfed, but the PHB does say that Warlock Implements work with Warlock Powers. A Wizard is lucky- not only do they have Implement Mastery, but their use of Implements works for all their arcane powers.</p><p> </p><p>Half Elf Wand or Staff Wizard who takes one of the following Warlock Powers (Dire Radiance, Eldritch Blast, Eyebite, Hellish Rebuke) would IMO make use of their Wand Implement and could even use Wand of Accuracy or Staff of Defence from their Implement Mastery.</p><p> </p><p>A Half Elf Orb Wizard could use their implement because Warlock Spells are Arcane BUT they may not use their Implement Mastery with a Warlock Spell, as Orb of Imposition only works with Wizard Spells. </p><p> </p><p>The Poor Half Elf Warlock taking a Wizard At Will power would have to take the Arcane Initiate feat to gain any benefit from Wizardly implements. The Wand they may have been using is now an effective implement for their Wizard spells- which may be 2 at Will Wizard Spells cast as Encounter. </p><p> </p><p>I love Wizards and Warlocks, the Warlock seems to have more tricks up his sleeve, but the Wizard has a variety of destructive weapons which are effective in Control. To me it looks like the Wizard is still the master of the Arcane, and is reaping the benefits- especially if you include Rituals. But Warlocks are good at what they do. </p><p> </p><p>Feats seem to be even more useful in 4E and are and the whole concept seems to be thematically sound.</p><p> </p><p>Important thing to note- Dilettante or Dabbler, the ability is not intended to be an Uber Powerful thig, but a way of expressing diverse interests. A Half Elf Rogue who had looked at the arcane arts before dedicating themselves to religon and the Raven Queen, might be : Rogue with Eyebite or Magic Missile (Dilettante) then Initiate of Faith. As he advances through adventuring, he develops Clerical powers through multiclass feats, his Rogue abilities grow too. But his early exploration of the arcane would not necessarily improve his ability granted through Dilettante.</p><p> </p><p>Thats only my take on things, obviously each DM is free to run things the way they want.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="spanglemaker, post: 4390267, member: 66557"] I thought that the PHB said that you may only use Dilletante for Level 1 at Will powers from classes converting them to an Encounter Power. A Half Elf should not be able to duplicate any racial powers. Half Elves may take any Human or Elven Feat. It may be nerfed, but the PHB does say that Warlock Implements work with Warlock Powers. A Wizard is lucky- not only do they have Implement Mastery, but their use of Implements works for all their arcane powers. Half Elf Wand or Staff Wizard who takes one of the following Warlock Powers (Dire Radiance, Eldritch Blast, Eyebite, Hellish Rebuke) would IMO make use of their Wand Implement and could even use Wand of Accuracy or Staff of Defence from their Implement Mastery. A Half Elf Orb Wizard could use their implement because Warlock Spells are Arcane BUT they may not use their Implement Mastery with a Warlock Spell, as Orb of Imposition only works with Wizard Spells. The Poor Half Elf Warlock taking a Wizard At Will power would have to take the Arcane Initiate feat to gain any benefit from Wizardly implements. The Wand they may have been using is now an effective implement for their Wizard spells- which may be 2 at Will Wizard Spells cast as Encounter. I love Wizards and Warlocks, the Warlock seems to have more tricks up his sleeve, but the Wizard has a variety of destructive weapons which are effective in Control. To me it looks like the Wizard is still the master of the Arcane, and is reaping the benefits- especially if you include Rituals. But Warlocks are good at what they do. Feats seem to be even more useful in 4E and are and the whole concept seems to be thematically sound. Important thing to note- Dilettante or Dabbler, the ability is not intended to be an Uber Powerful thig, but a way of expressing diverse interests. A Half Elf Rogue who had looked at the arcane arts before dedicating themselves to religon and the Raven Queen, might be : Rogue with Eyebite or Magic Missile (Dilettante) then Initiate of Faith. As he advances through adventuring, he develops Clerical powers through multiclass feats, his Rogue abilities grow too. But his early exploration of the arcane would not necessarily improve his ability granted through Dilettante. Thats only my take on things, obviously each DM is free to run things the way they want. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Dilettante & Implements
Top