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<blockquote data-quote="Scipio202" data-source="post: 4199712" data-attributes="member: 63152">I'm actually not so sure that bonus-stacking (e.g. Tenser's Transformation) will be the main kinds of effects you'll trade powers for.&nbsp; From what we know, 4E has changed how buffs work.&nbsp; Powers are only going to provide 1-round bonuses it seems, and every class seems to have a similar smattering of bonus-granting effects.&nbsp; It's probably not going to be worth spending a feat to trade one bonus-granting feat for another very often.&nbsp; Longer lasting buffs I believe are supposed to be rituals now.&nbsp; Multiclassing can likely allow a fighter to access that, but via access to class feats.&nbsp; E.g.Arcane Initiate Feat -&gt; Ritual Casting Feat (normally wizard-restricted) -&gt; Acquire buff ritual (purchase? find?)Rituals likely won't have the opportunity cost that swapping into cross-class powers will.&nbsp; I.e. will you have to give up a &quot;fighter&quot; ritual to get a &quot;wizard&quot; ritual?&nbsp; I doubt it.I haven't looked much at which powers attack specific defenses, so it could go either way.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/1.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":1:" title="One&nbsp; &nbsp; :1:" data-shortname=":1:" /> Every class has &quot;linear&quot;/&quot;bread and butter&quot; powers that attack all the defenses -&gt; no need to MC away from/into those powers&nbsp;<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":2:" title="Two&nbsp; &nbsp; :2:" data-shortname=":2:" /> Classes specialize in attacking certain defenses -&gt; Then in fact you may want to MC into another class' powers to exploit monsters with certain weak defenses.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scipio202, post: 4199712, member: 63152"] I'm actually not so sure that bonus-stacking (e.g. Tenser's Transformation) will be the main kinds of effects you'll trade powers for. From what we know, 4E has changed how buffs work. Powers are only going to provide 1-round bonuses it seems, and every class seems to have a similar smattering of bonus-granting effects. It's probably not going to be worth spending a feat to trade one bonus-granting feat for another very often. Longer lasting buffs I believe are supposed to be rituals now. Multiclassing can likely allow a fighter to access that, but via access to class feats. E.g. Arcane Initiate Feat -> Ritual Casting Feat (normally wizard-restricted) -> Acquire buff ritual (purchase? find?) Rituals likely won't have the opportunity cost that swapping into cross-class powers will. I.e. will you have to give up a "fighter" ritual to get a "wizard" ritual? I doubt it. I haven't looked much at which powers attack specific defenses, so it could go either way. :1: Every class has "linear"/"bread and butter" powers that attack all the defenses -> no need to MC away from/into those powers :2: Classes specialize in attacking certain defenses -> Then in fact you may want to MC into another class' powers to exploit monsters with certain weak defenses. [/QUOTE]

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