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<blockquote data-quote="xidoraven" data-source="post: 5042092" data-attributes="member: 60187"><p><strong>soooooo..... hmmmmm..... :/</strong></p><p></p><p>So, I think I may have run into a small problem with regard to any form of publishing by any form of established company that may have to do with posting information like this openly and freely on the web.</p><p></p><p>I think we may have screwed ourselves (or well, maybe not us, but me rather) by posting all this information openly on a forum like this. According to intellectual property laws and concerned sites and parties involved, I don't think that either one of us actually own anything that we have posted here. Sure the ideas might have been ours, but the way other companies are looking at material that is posted here currently (even if we take it all down in preparation for a publication of any form) - they wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. If it's been posted online at any time, they wouldn't have full rights to it if and when published, so pretty much everything I have written so far, including what we have composed cooperatively here, is out of the question with any of the larger publication companies.</p><p></p><p>My next concept in trying to find a solution to this would be to consider self-publication through an authoring company such as authorhouse.com or another equivalent competitor for online self-publication. Not really the best option in the world, and not possible to do any trademarking (and really screwing us over from using anything referenced but not specifically SRD material). I don't think this last concern is one that would affect the dinopriminals concept directly since we so far use only SRD and homebrew material, but anything including all of our dinosaur/prehistoric animal ideas on this forum and the other would be out the door, I think. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p>Anyways, I am still going to continue working on it as though that is my final goal with the material, but I am thinking it might have just fallen through on me. In any case, I am going to be learning a few things about the Pathfinder RPG formatting (similar in many cases to 3.5e D&D), as well as converting and writing in 4e - just to make sure that anything new that I make (on my computer and sent via email/private media to partners, ie - you and others helping with projects like this) is still marketable if the big wigs will accept a pitch for new material.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, so to be clear on what should happen here soon: I will continue posting new material, and we will need to make the revisions we have been talking about (if you can't make the ones to your own posts, I can copy them and make a separate posting with updated information). Beyond that, I would like to make sure that every race has alternative information for non-Sigilry using variations, in case readers wouldn't specifically be using that system in concurrence with these critters. After that, and making sure that the ecology lists are filled with the work on the other thread for revising and finalizing dino/prim stats, I will come up with some ecology tables and related media for dealing with all the critters in the campaign setting I am making. I will also try and finalize my maps, so I can point out regions where I am focusing certain aspects of the material, so that you can see where and how some material will be more applicable to certain issues, as compared to others.</p><p></p><p>I already have a near-finished packet of material related to player races, but many of them are previously published and not SRD material, so I have to make simple references without copying information, or else rename and rework everything to be close but not exactly the same as previously printed material - this would include D&D, Dragon/Paizo, and third-party materials that I have been using and referencing in the setting ideas. I am also gonna have to look at the specifics of the legal stuff related to WotC forums.... We might not have rights to anything that is created, posted, and hosted permanently on that site. :S That could be a problem, especially if you guys really enjoy working on the dino-fiends, and also just as important to any of the other material we have put together for dinos/prims.</p><p></p><p>I have seriously considered working with ENWorld crew members/owners to really figure out what could be done or worked with that will keep us in good standing with them and still able to do printed versions of material made on these forums (I have a good feeling about that part, at least), but the other companies are going to be WAY more difficult to deal with in terms of what we "own" and can publish and/or redistribute - whether for profit or under our names (IP legals). I hate this <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />... It's why I am an artist, and not a lawyer. Oh well.</p><p></p><p>More to come.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="xidoraven, post: 5042092, member: 60187"] [b]soooooo..... hmmmmm..... :/[/b] So, I think I may have run into a small problem with regard to any form of publishing by any form of established company that may have to do with posting information like this openly and freely on the web. I think we may have screwed ourselves (or well, maybe not us, but me rather) by posting all this information openly on a forum like this. According to intellectual property laws and concerned sites and parties involved, I don't think that either one of us actually own anything that we have posted here. Sure the ideas might have been ours, but the way other companies are looking at material that is posted here currently (even if we take it all down in preparation for a publication of any form) - they wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot pole. If it's been posted online at any time, they wouldn't have full rights to it if and when published, so pretty much everything I have written so far, including what we have composed cooperatively here, is out of the question with any of the larger publication companies. My next concept in trying to find a solution to this would be to consider self-publication through an authoring company such as authorhouse.com or another equivalent competitor for online self-publication. Not really the best option in the world, and not possible to do any trademarking (and really screwing us over from using anything referenced but not specifically SRD material). I don't think this last concern is one that would affect the dinopriminals concept directly since we so far use only SRD and homebrew material, but anything including all of our dinosaur/prehistoric animal ideas on this forum and the other would be out the door, I think. :( Anyways, I am still going to continue working on it as though that is my final goal with the material, but I am thinking it might have just fallen through on me. In any case, I am going to be learning a few things about the Pathfinder RPG formatting (similar in many cases to 3.5e D&D), as well as converting and writing in 4e - just to make sure that anything new that I make (on my computer and sent via email/private media to partners, ie - you and others helping with projects like this) is still marketable if the big wigs will accept a pitch for new material. Okay, so to be clear on what should happen here soon: I will continue posting new material, and we will need to make the revisions we have been talking about (if you can't make the ones to your own posts, I can copy them and make a separate posting with updated information). Beyond that, I would like to make sure that every race has alternative information for non-Sigilry using variations, in case readers wouldn't specifically be using that system in concurrence with these critters. After that, and making sure that the ecology lists are filled with the work on the other thread for revising and finalizing dino/prim stats, I will come up with some ecology tables and related media for dealing with all the critters in the campaign setting I am making. I will also try and finalize my maps, so I can point out regions where I am focusing certain aspects of the material, so that you can see where and how some material will be more applicable to certain issues, as compared to others. I already have a near-finished packet of material related to player races, but many of them are previously published and not SRD material, so I have to make simple references without copying information, or else rename and rework everything to be close but not exactly the same as previously printed material - this would include D&D, Dragon/Paizo, and third-party materials that I have been using and referencing in the setting ideas. I am also gonna have to look at the specifics of the legal stuff related to WotC forums.... We might not have rights to anything that is created, posted, and hosted permanently on that site. :S That could be a problem, especially if you guys really enjoy working on the dino-fiends, and also just as important to any of the other material we have put together for dinos/prims. I have seriously considered working with ENWorld crew members/owners to really figure out what could be done or worked with that will keep us in good standing with them and still able to do printed versions of material made on these forums (I have a good feeling about that part, at least), but the other companies are going to be WAY more difficult to deal with in terms of what we "own" and can publish and/or redistribute - whether for profit or under our names (IP legals). I hate this :):):):)... It's why I am an artist, and not a lawyer. Oh well. More to come..... [/QUOTE]
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