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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 4005134" data-attributes="member: 15999">A vargouille is very low CR.  Let's say I have a party that has defeated hobgoblins, worgs, ogres, and even a hill giant or two.  I would EXPECT them to react like "What in the Nine Hells is THAT??" upon seeing a vargouille.  It's just so strange and out of the norm.Excuse me?  Reacting in that particular way has nothing to do with my preferences as a player except for one thing -- respecting the campaign setting.  I specifically noted it as a hypothetical Conan-type game, okay?  Do you remember that part?  A great part of the appeal of that setting is its "grim-and-gritty" feel, which has the effect of making the exotic really special.  Characters expect to see less of the exotic and the bizarre in their daily life.  So I had a character in that setting react in a way that respects that setting.  In a Star Wars or Eberron campaign, I wouldn't have any character react that way.  In a "kitchen sink" campaign, I wouldn't have any character react that way.  But in a campaign setting that has enough definition to establish "X is odd and unusual," it is disrespectful to the game to treat X as boring and mundane.I was not saying that this was the situation in the OP's case.  I created a hypothetical situation to illustrate the point that HOW the introduction of something unusual is handled makes a major difference to me as a player.  If it has been established as unusual by the "world rules," as RC phrases it, then you have to respond with an in-game explanation -- not just appealing to the fact that it's in the "game rules."</blockquote>

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