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<blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 4005261" data-attributes="member: 149"><p>What about a cheetah is so inherently unreasonable for an Eskimo campaign? Aside from the fact that they don't live in the arctic in our world? Are you incapable of "filing off the serial numbers" a bit and giving the player a creature functionally identical to a cheetah, with slightly different flavor text? And if it looks like a cheetah, acts like a cheetah does calling it a cheetah, really piss in your cereal to the point where you can't enjoy the campaign?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>+10 plate at first level is a balance and power issue. Not a flavor one. I can easily envision a campaign where the DM could deal with a first level character has an item like that. A really good DM can deal with almost anything.</p><p></p><p>As far as a vulcan in a starfleet uniform goes. Is that really that much more bizarre than a lot of fantasy outfits? The classic chain-mail bikini springs to mind.</p><p></p><p>I'd like to point out some of my favorite quotes.</p><p></p><p>"The difference between reality and fiction. Is that reality doesn't have to make sense."</p><p></p><p>In other words, if reality can pull stuff you wouldn't accept from fiction, why is it so unreasonable to have something that really isn't unreasonable?</p><p></p><p>"Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine. It is stranger than we <em>can</em> imagine."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmmm, Dino armor riders. Sounds like an interesting campaign to me. Now if I could just find a decent set of rules for mecha.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's a fundamental difference between explicitly excluding something that violates the precepts of a setting and including something that isn't explicitly forbidden. In a pirates of the Carribean setting, obviously if you are using a real world setting, throwing in something like a warforged that wasn't present in that real world setting at all and is fundamentally impossible in that setting violates it. However, you could quite easily justify having a ninja in a pirates setting. There might not have been any in reality, but contact with Japan had been established centuries before PotC and there's no real reason why a Ninja couldn't show up.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I doubt either of us really wants to inflict a game we'd want to play in on the other.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you want a fantasy world where everything is inscribed in stone and every detail is determined by 10th level? How does the presence of dinosaurs SOMEWHERE in the world prevent you from making rational choices or planning your actions. They don't do anything game breaking. They don't alter the laws of reality. They're just (potentially) large creatures. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Except that at no point did the druid insist on having just picked up the dino from around the corner at "George's used Dino Emporium". He's a 10th lvl druid from potentially ANYWHERE in the world, who could have gotten the Dino ANYWHERE in the world. Are you really incapable of imagining a way that a 10th lvl druid couldn't have gotten a dino animal companion from SOMEWHERE in the world?</p><p></p><p>Nowhere in the post was there an indication that the DM excluded this dino option for the other players. It simply wasn't one that anyone else had thought of. Does this have to preclude anyone from using something?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rackhir, post: 4005261, member: 149"] What about a cheetah is so inherently unreasonable for an Eskimo campaign? Aside from the fact that they don't live in the arctic in our world? Are you incapable of "filing off the serial numbers" a bit and giving the player a creature functionally identical to a cheetah, with slightly different flavor text? And if it looks like a cheetah, acts like a cheetah does calling it a cheetah, really piss in your cereal to the point where you can't enjoy the campaign? +10 plate at first level is a balance and power issue. Not a flavor one. I can easily envision a campaign where the DM could deal with a first level character has an item like that. A really good DM can deal with almost anything. As far as a vulcan in a starfleet uniform goes. Is that really that much more bizarre than a lot of fantasy outfits? The classic chain-mail bikini springs to mind. I'd like to point out some of my favorite quotes. "The difference between reality and fiction. Is that reality doesn't have to make sense." In other words, if reality can pull stuff you wouldn't accept from fiction, why is it so unreasonable to have something that really isn't unreasonable? "Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine. It is stranger than we [i]can[/i] imagine." Hmmm, Dino armor riders. Sounds like an interesting campaign to me. Now if I could just find a decent set of rules for mecha. There's a fundamental difference between explicitly excluding something that violates the precepts of a setting and including something that isn't explicitly forbidden. In a pirates of the Carribean setting, obviously if you are using a real world setting, throwing in something like a warforged that wasn't present in that real world setting at all and is fundamentally impossible in that setting violates it. However, you could quite easily justify having a ninja in a pirates setting. There might not have been any in reality, but contact with Japan had been established centuries before PotC and there's no real reason why a Ninja couldn't show up. I doubt either of us really wants to inflict a game we'd want to play in on the other. So you want a fantasy world where everything is inscribed in stone and every detail is determined by 10th level? How does the presence of dinosaurs SOMEWHERE in the world prevent you from making rational choices or planning your actions. They don't do anything game breaking. They don't alter the laws of reality. They're just (potentially) large creatures. Except that at no point did the druid insist on having just picked up the dino from around the corner at "George's used Dino Emporium". He's a 10th lvl druid from potentially ANYWHERE in the world, who could have gotten the Dino ANYWHERE in the world. Are you really incapable of imagining a way that a 10th lvl druid couldn't have gotten a dino animal companion from SOMEWHERE in the world? Nowhere in the post was there an indication that the DM excluded this dino option for the other players. It simply wasn't one that anyone else had thought of. Does this have to preclude anyone from using something? [/QUOTE]
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