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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 1259980" data-attributes="member: 8439">I think you're missing the point. One, I've already made my feelings on high cha clear. It does NOT make you likable. Indimidate is based on Cha for a reason. And in the real world I know plenty of charismatic jerks and even more very likable shy guys...Second, and more importantly, I'm not suggesting penalizing someone for their roleplaying. I would penalize them for their tactics. To use an odd example, a high dex, high tumble skill character under the effects of expiditious retreat could easily move in a wide circle and jump a couple of threatened zones without taking attacks to land right where she wants to. If she instead decides to charge through mutliple threatened zones and make an untrained bull rush on an enemy, she will take all the attacks of oppertunity. I will not alter her moronic tactics to what would work just because the abilities are there.  Her dex or speed or skills will not help her when she is not using them, and the expiditious retreat may work against her by allowing her to move through more threatened zones than she would be able to normally.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> If you are making an obvious attempt to be diplomatic, your diplomacy skill is in use. If your roleplaying is awful but you tell me flat out that you are trying to use the skill (and to what effect), we can work with that. But don't spit in the mayor's face then ask me why your diplomacy ranks aren't winning him over...  It's the same reason all your spells aren't doing any damage when you don't cast them.Kahuna Burger</blockquote>

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