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Message: <blockquote data-quote="payn" data-source="post: 9367094" data-attributes="member: 90374">Any alliances that folks have experience with?I have tried a few. The best I've tried is the;<h3>The Anglo-Saxon (England + Germany)</h3>England and Germany ally a little more frequently than England and France, because England and France are both naval powers, while Germany is traditionally a land-based power.  However this alliance will have to be very patient, when fighting the French. A good French player will be able to last until approximately spring 1904.  France has a strong defensive position, due to the impassable Swiss territory.  While finishing, or while attacking France, England and Germany turn against Russia.  Then England can continue against Italy, while Germany crosses the stalemate line and attacks Austria.I've heard the Anglo-Saxon also referred to as the "elephant and the Whale". The alliance works well because England fleets up and Germany builds ground forces. Making it difficult to invade one another, thus holding off untimely stabs and alliance collapse. I have also tried the;<h3>Top-of-the-World Sweep (England + Russia)</h3>This alliance is one of great ease and effectiveness if used correctly. With Russia and England both at the "top of the world", they can sweep downwards without stop, crushing Germany, Austria-Hungary, France and sometimes Italy and Turkey. Russia advancing into Germany, Austria-Hungary, and sometimes Turkey, it claims the Eastern world. England can make its way down the coast and into France, completely dominating if it can get its navies into the water fast enough. And once it has claimed France, Italy will be the next to easily go, since it will generally be attacked by Austria-Hungary and France at the beginning of the game. But here's where the hard part comes in. Russia and England both border Germany, which is a key spot in attacking both Austria-Hungary and France. Also, these are both big countries, and though they are supporting each other, it can get tricky and tensions can get high if Turkey decides to attack Russia. England can't do anything. And if France attacks England and is winning, Russia really can't help at all either since it would have to cross English territory and therefore make a seemingly aggressive attack on England. Overall, this is a great alliance if they can pull it off properly. If not, they will most likely fight each other to the death. Seem to work out well at first, but it collapsed and I was forced to stab as England as my Russian partner began to panic about their southern and western fronts. I was forced to side with France after an agreed DMZ at start of the game. We struggled to bust Germany, which we finally did and then France tried to get cute forcing me to stab them (which resulted in a rage quit). Eventual stalemate formed at the typical western and eastern triangle.</blockquote>

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