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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kibo" data-source="post: 426066" data-attributes="member: 5451">There was some guy a while back that had a thread where I posted a specific solution to a specific scenerio involving diplomacy with a red dragon.  I stand by viciousness such as that.Obviously the personality of the dragon is important.  But particularly with evil dragons, I think there should be a certain consistancy when it comes to some character traits.  Arrogance and conceit would seem to be staples.  If the pc's want something, anything, it has value and will not be parted with freely.  What ever it is they want from the dragon, they'll have to pony up.  And if they have nothing of value in the way of goods, well there's always services.  As far as how to go about it, well just walking up and knocking on his cavern would be unseemly, and what self respecting home-body of a dragon would be without a familiar to help great people?  Now if the PC's did something untoward and molested the familiar in someway (jeez xarlen, get your mind outta the gutter) they would hopefully be smart enough to run far and fast so as to avoid the comming total party kill.  Perhaps one lucky player would end up surviving a little while, long enough to be the target of a nice polymorph other, followed by a nice charm spell, eventually ending up as something of a replacement familiar of sorts.But should the party be particularly clever and bold they might try to strike up a bargain for something they say they want and in the course of negotiations try to trick the dragon into giving them that which they seek for free.But what might a dragon want in the way of services.  Ahhh.  That could be a whole forum.  But the abridged edition of what would surely be a lengthy exposition, would be anything the PC's really did not want to do.  You could have the dragon geas, or otherwise coerce them into some unsavory, humiliating, vile, or otherwise odious task.  I like to throw in an evil twist.  Should the party have a bard, clever rogue, or anyone with points in perform.  They might be forced to stay behind and entertain the dragon.  (How isn't really important, a simple rock to mud, and mud to rock should sufficently immobilize and terrify a lone bard, but there are so very many ways within the scope of a dragons power).  This is nice, because you can have the dragon put a clock on the adventures.  Just how entertaining is that smooth talking bard?  A fickle and malevolent dragon may not cut the same slack for an off key note, or the same joke making a second pass, as a drunken crowd in a warm inn.  Make Me Laugh, or DIE, the fantasy gameshow that could very well be a once in a lifetime experience.  As fun as the party's adventure might be, tormenting them with the uneviable nature of their task, and the fact that a dear friend's life hangs in the balance, I'm sure everyone would be just a little jealous of the bard.  Just how does one handle a dragon who heckles you and steps on your punchlines?  You've got to be funny, your life depends on it, but there is definately such a thing as too funny.The devious cruelties I would have a dragon inflict would depend on how I saw the dragon, what the dragon knew of the party, and what the party wanted.  (As in the thread about the silver dragon eggs.)</blockquote>

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