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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HeavyG" data-source="post: 907589" data-attributes="member: 431">At 13th level (5 PCs party), we managed to go toe to toe with a colossal scorpion just fine.  Actually, it was a giant crawfish that the DM used the colossal scorpion stats for, minus the stinger.  So, that made the encounter easier but we were all immune to poison (as every party should be starting 11th level using Heroes Feast) and we were fighting underwater and basically had no real chance to avoid it because of cramped quarters, so I'd say it was at least a EL 12 encounter, maybe EL 13.Anyway, one of our fighters was savaged pretty badly, so we had to use a Heal spell on him, but that is the extend of party resources used.  The fight lasted a tiny bit over 2 rounds, that is, the crawfish only had time to act twice.Anyway, what I'm saying is that colossal giant scorpions might be hard to beat at those levels, but they are not totally impossible encounters even when you *have* to face them on their term.  Maybe they should be CR 12, but certainly not above that.</blockquote>